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Still the One

Archie juked another one.

After winning the Heisman as a sophomore last season, Tebow was in pretty good position to become only the 2nd two-time winner of the award, but it was another sophomore -- this time Oklahoma's Bradford -- that would preserve Griffin's unique status in the stiff-arm trophy-winning fraternity.

For the third time in the last five years, a quarterback that had won the award the previous season was back in contention to win a second one, but just like Jason White in 2004 and Matt Leinart in 2005, Tebow finished third in the standings, though he did capture the most first-place votes.

With Tebow and Bradford likely back, putting each in a position to capture another Heisman, Griffin and Buckeye fans will be sweating another vote out next December. But at least we'll have one of our own in the mix in and looking to become the third-straight soph to win the trophy.

It's tough to root against Tebow, who is fantastic off the field and from all accounts, even better off of it, but only one school has ever produced a two-time winner. The longer that holds true, the better.

Comments

TLB on 13 December 2008 - 10:44pm #

McCoy's turn next year.

Jason on 13 December 2008 - 10:51pm #

Yeah, it's nice having him back as another buster.

sam on 13 December 2008 - 11:09pm #

Bradford is a third year soph and may not come back next year...

Jason on 13 December 2008 - 11:13pm #

You're right, Sam. For some reason I was thinking he started as a true frosh last year.

eScoutRoom on 13 December 2008 - 11:23pm #

Glad to see Bradford win over Tebow. Archie remaining the only 2 time winner is great for Archie and Ohio State.

Matt on 13 December 2008 - 11:50pm #

True, but you just know that Archie is the classiest guy up there and would have been the first former winner to congratulate Tebow on his second.

Kyle on 13 December 2008 - 11:53pm #

Congrats Sam Bradford and let's hope you can break the recent curse of Heisman winners blowing it in the MNC game.

Olentangy on 14 December 2008 - 12:00am #

What was up with Billy Sims? I can't imagine Archie, Eddie or Troy yelling "O H" repeatedly and obnoxiously if LIC wins it next year. He sounded like an idiot. Even Sam Bradford seemed embarrassed for him

bup bup bup on 14 December 2008 - 12:04am #

that is a great picture of archie

Matt on 14 December 2008 - 12:10am #

Sims has done that every year I've watched. He did that during Troy's heisman ceremony, although only when they were introducing the players. He's like the schizophrenic guy that shows up at the coffee house and makes everyone uncomfortable with his yelling, but no one has the heart to tell him to leave.

iball on 14 December 2008 - 1:11am #

I know no one gives a fuck, but how does Bradford win over Mc Coy?

77% completions, leads team iin rushing, beats Bradford head to head on neutral field.

Maybe its our last two bowl performances talking, but now our work is REALLY cut out for us.

Alot of our chances were riding on Texas being down due to not being in the bowl they felt they should of been in.

But now, I think, they are gonna have a HUGE chip on their shoulder. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't have one on ours.

Being told how bad you are, and how Texas will walk through you has to take its toll, or has to get old.

Still workin on that footage 11W!!

Any one out there with Texas game footage, send it in to be broke down by our 11W gurus. Gonna have to throw some packages together for coach Tress to take a look at.

Poe McKnoe on 14 December 2008 - 1:26am #

Who's this Tim Tebow you speak of?

Matt on 14 December 2008 - 1:43am #

I try to dislike Tebow, but he's really never given me a reason to do so. I have to imagine that if Tebow didn't play for Florida or under Urban Meyer, he'd be the favorite non-Buckeye player of many 11W commenters here. Although I doubt most would admit as much.

Mike on 14 December 2008 - 1:47am #

Guys I love the Bucks and would never root for FLA, but at some point you must realize that Tebow may go down as the best CFB player ever. He is a good kid, he just plays for an asshole coach! I hate to cheer for him and the Gators, but he is THAT good!

Kurt on 14 December 2008 - 2:07am #

I don't get all this gushing over Tebow... I could be very mistaken but he doesn't seem to be a great QB (stares down receivers). McCoy is far better than Tebow or Bradford. Heisman's are more political than BCS Championship Game bids... Whatever...

Matt on 14 December 2008 - 2:31am #

Well I'm not going to say he's the best ever, I don't think he's near talented enough to approach that plane, even to get a whiff of that prize; but I do think he's one of the best natural leaders of all time in college FB. But leadership ability does not a freak athlete make; best college football player of all time, you're talking Jim Brown, Doak Walker, Barry Sanders, Bo Jackson, etc. Tebow is not in that crew.

vico on 14 December 2008 - 2:55am #

Who’s this Tim Tebow you speak of?

He was the guy that Gary Danielson was thinking of, and talking about, as he was touching himself in very inappropriate places during the Lundquist-Danielson beatoff that is the CBS' coverage of the SEC. He is also the object of the Tebowner that all Southerners have.

dtensor on 14 December 2008 - 4:10am #

Tebow? Gators? is that the same team that lost to Michigan last
year in the Capital One bowl? I think the Gators were ranked
and Michigan was unranked (having lost to App State, Oregon and
OSU already). If I remember correctly, it was a close game but
in crunch time (last two possessions), old Tim got a total of 4 yards against
the "mighty" Michigan defense (the same on that Beanie shredded for 222 yards).

So, with Tebow as a starter, Florida is 21 and 5, with 2 of those losses to unranked teams.

Come on, guys - you honestly think a qb who lost to Michigan
last year (in a Bowl game) should come anywhere near the Heisman?
Especially when surrounded by first team all SEC players
such as Harvin or Spikes.

I am befuddled by all this Tebow talk.

Yeah, he had good stats last year but every year there is some qb somewhere
putting up phenomenal numbers - Colt Brennan, anyone?
Heck, Chris Leak had a better win/loss record at F. than Tebow.

On a related note, Bradford and Oklahoma got thrashed in last year's
bowl game by W. Virgina. McCoy and Texas did well, despite 4
fumbles.

Figures that's who we play.

Steve on 14 December 2008 - 4:45am #

I hope Beanie comes back. That's all I've got to say.

J.B. on 14 December 2008 - 4:52am #

I will agree that Tebow seems to be a "good kid". He says all the right things. Does all the right things. I can't really argue that, but I will say that Florida has a great public relations program and it shows! It also helps when Gary Danielson gushes about your every move every chance he gets!

I think Gary actually says he wants to have Tebows babies in this movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

All that said, Tebow is FAR from the "best CFB player ever". I would argue that he's not even the best player this decade - see Vince Young. I don't even think he's the best player on his own team based on talent - see Percy Harvin. Urban Meyer is an outstanding coach that will continue to produce "phenom" college quarterbacks in his system - see Alex Smith - that will achieve a level of greatness that they wouldn't have reached with out him.

Tebow will go down as a Great player dont get me wrong... he has the hardware to back that up, but he's not close to one of the best all time.

Mike on 14 December 2008 - 7:47am #

Okay maybe I am stretching as the best player of all time but he is one of the best of the new class. I hate his coach and the whole Gator nation but the kid carries himself with alot of class. I am sure he is like most college kids but he sure knows how to put on a good show in front of the camera. Why am I still talking about this...GO BUCKS!

Mike on 14 December 2008 - 7:49am #

Kurt I am with you this year...I think Colt was robbed. Why does everyone love Oklahoma so much...HEAD TO HEAD Colt beat him! Unfortunatly for him he hasn't face tOSU D yet.

flipbuckeye on 14 December 2008 - 9:05am #

Honestly all of them deserved it, no one more than the other, IMO. I would have liked to see McCoy win it, mainly because the Heisman curse would be on our side, heh.

Mike on 14 December 2008 - 10:18am #

This makes me sad, as I'm pulling for Oklahoma in the title game, and that curse seems to be pretty darn potent.

Hopefully Tebow gets fat on heisman dinners too so they'll be even.

Poe McKnoe on 14 December 2008 - 10:29am #

Tebowner or Teboner? I need some clarification.

Jakethe...Buckeye on 14 December 2008 - 1:49pm #

I find it quite easy to root against any Florida player. Especially their annoying quarterback. I try not to let a players character get in the way of rooting for or against them.

Poe McKnoe on 14 December 2008 - 2:13pm #

tebow tebow tebow.

I want to cut my ears off every time I watch CBS football.

J.B. on 14 December 2008 - 7:30pm #

Now that the 2008 Heisman winner has been awarded, Scout.com released their projection of who will be the top 25 front runners for 2009. It's a little premature considering nobody knows for sure what Juniors are leaving, but it was a fun to look at none the less.

Gary Danielsons man crush tops the list followed by Colt McCoy who insists that he is coming back for his senior year claiming he has "unfinished business" in Austin. Nothing shocking, Tebow already has a Heisman and McCoy just completed his trip to NYC where he just came up short in collecting his hardware.

Where the list does get interesting, at least for Buckeye fans, is that Pryor is number 3 on their "Watch List" saying "The guy is really good"... Though I think really good is a bit of an understatement, I agree that he will be in the top 5 and a solid outing out West will only propel him up the charts. The voters have taken been pretty favorable to Sophomores that last 2 years!

Link:
http://www.scout.com/a.z?s=143...

Scott on 15 December 2008 - 9:46am #

Based on my 5th grade spelling bee champion trophy on my mantle, it would have to be 'Teboner'. The 'w' would imply some sort of archery trick shot.

BuckeyeExpat on 15 December 2008 - 10:27am #

Stop living in the past, fellow Buckeye fans. Archie being the only 2x winner doesn't matter! You say it "Is great for Archie & OSU?" How?

The only people who think this is a real accomplishment is OSU fans. Out here away from Central Ohio, nobody cares. Nobody says "Well, OSU has looked like crap in every major game for the past 3 years, but dammit, they ARE the only 2x winner".

I just don't see why everyone wants to cling to this random number from the past...ESPECIALLY when we've seen that the H**sman winner is often NOT the best player each season.

And before you attack, yes, I am huge Buckeye fan. Just one who looks forward.

Brian on 15 December 2008 - 1:50pm #

The situation at Oklahoma may dictate Bradford's future. I think he loses pretty much his whole line, and at least 1 of his receivers. I would be shocked if he stayed as it would certainly hurt his production and ultimately his draft status.

Jason on 15 December 2008 - 7:28pm #

While I consider myself a forward-looking fan as well, hanging to random numbers and accomplishments are what make sports what they are.

You think Yankee fans still aren't proud that Dimaggio has the hit streak? Wouldn't Purdue or Texas A&M love to have the only two-time Heisman winner? You bet.

If nothing else, it's worth it from a marketing perspective when trying to lure new recruits and licensing deals.

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