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Miami Open Thread

Tipoff: 7:00PM ET
Previews: 11W
Favorite: Miami (-8)
Television: ESPN
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Ohio State will be looking to improve their ACC/B10 Challenge record to 3-5 overall, when they make the quick trip down to Miami to face the #22 Hurricanes.

Miami has yet to win a game in their two previous challenge tries, but have won 28 of their last 30 home games against unranked OOC opponents. The ACC holds a 33-4 mark at home during the ESPN made-for-TV event.

The young Buckeyes hopefully packed their offensive gymbags, after getting trounced by Texas A&M, Butler and UNC last year around this time. If you remember, Thad's boys went bucketless during large stretches in each of those games and averaged just 49 points. The 'Canes start 2 seniors and 3 juniors, so this looks to be another daunting early season task for Ohio State.

With the most recent Buckeye offensive output still fresh on my mind, I don't have a great feeling about pulling off the upset against a veteran team such as Miami. The defense should be there, but I just can't see enough points being scored by the Bucks. However, that doesn't mean we still can't discuss the game as it goes on and look to see if a couple of aspects of this team can emerge.

Three burning questions:

  1. Which David Lighty and Jon Diebler will show up tonight?
  2. Can Evan Turner and Dallas Swatterdale continue their improvement?
  3. Can either Jeremie Simmons or Anthony Crater drive and dish to get the stagnant offense a jump start?

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ShoeWorker on 2 Dec 2008 - 8:47pm #

Quick question - does anyone know a good website for buckeye football archives? - with game by game info from seasons in the 90s and possibly earlier

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cgbuckeye on 2 Dec 2008 - 8:59pm #

Bucks definitely need to keep the turnovers down tonight!

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Nik on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:04pm #

columbus dispatch actually just set one up recently

http://www.dispatch.com/live/c...

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cgbuckeye on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:06pm #

Turnover!

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??? on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:12pm #

Is it just me or do Matta's teams have no idea how to break a zone defense? I have yet to see them drive or put someone get to the middle to open it up

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corey on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:13pm #

too many 3's to start

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Poe McKnoe on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:13pm #

Dunkerdale.

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cgbuckeye on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:14pm #

finally a little life!

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??? on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:14pm #

this could be a very long day

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Nik on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:15pm #

very long... =(

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??? on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:15pm #

turner is not all he is cracked up to be...he is athletic but has zero basketball knowledge

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??? on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:17pm #

way to miss 3 in a row dallas thats effective

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Kris on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:18pm #

bucks look like shit....sorry but its true

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cgbuckeye on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:18pm #

I've noticed a trend with him at the line in the first two games. not good

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OhFoSho on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:19pm #

Plenty of time to turn things around

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Kris on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:19pm #

Matta did'n have these boys ready to play tonite.

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cgbuckeye on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:20pm #

horrible shot by buford!

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??? on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:20pm #

put evan on the bench for a while and let him calm down

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cgbuckeye on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:22pm #

those are killing us

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??? on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:24pm #

do we practice boxing out or rebounding?

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cgbuckeye on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:26pm #

what was that????

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??? on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:27pm #

lavin just sounds dumb...the kid swiped and poked him in the eye and he says it wasnt bad because it was open handed

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cgbuckeye on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:28pm #

doesn't make a difference. Intent was there.

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corey on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:28pm #

can't cheat bitches

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cgbuckeye on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:29pm #

bout time diebs

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Poe McKnoe on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:29pm #

good thing we know the U is still the U

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??? on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:30pm #

here is my question, they are tossing the kid for a play that occured before the 3 pt shot was made shouldnt the shot not count?

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:34pm #

Think Miami fans are still bitter about 2002?

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corey on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:34pm #

good point ??? I'm just waiting for a post entry pass from OSU

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:35pm #

Lighty is scared to shoot....

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??? on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:37pm #

we miss shots and our entire team is sitting around the 3 pt line wondering why the ball wasnt in their hand....this is going to be a long long season

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cgbuckeye on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:38pm #

i just thought the same thing!!!

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wsas on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:38pm #

Where's the live blog.

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:39pm #

He's scared to shoot but he can take a charge :)

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Poe McKnoe on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:40pm #

I'll live blog your face.

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Poe McKnoe on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:41pm #

which offense is worse? football or baseball?

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:41pm #

Wow, this is embarassing...

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Poe McKnoe on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:41pm #

ha basketball. i suck at life.

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wsas on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:43pm #

Poe, you talk back like that, and I'll make you watch this first half over and over.

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:44pm #

Hmm, I wonder if Thad misses Ron Lewis...

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??? on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:46pm #

ha ha ha we have two seven footers on the floor and they are whoring us down low

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cgbuckeye on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:48pm #

nobody within 5 feet of the hoop. it's 3 or nothing

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wsas on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:48pm #

2nd time that's happened. Offensive rebound, and look to pass it out immediately. Turn around = easy layup. They look lost.

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??? on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:49pm #

its 3 pointers or bust for us and we arent that good at shooting three pointers

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GORDON IS A GEEK on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:50pm #

What's this shit about Tressel GOING to the Browns?!!? So, does that mean Meyer comes to Ohio State?

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:52pm #

Tressel isn't going anywhere. He will retire a Buckeye...

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TLB on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:52pm #

This team is awful. Good thing the Big10 is bad again this year, we might make it to the NIT again.

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Jason on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:53pm #

First tough road test for a lot of the youngsters. And they're proving their youth.

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wsas on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:54pm #

David Lighty looks like the worst player on the floor at any point in time.

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Jon on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:54pm #

Worst half I have seen since the debacle in the LA Coliseum.

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??? on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:55pm #

they arent just proving their youth, they are proving they are not coached....there are zero fundamentals against this team

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:55pm #

Pretty bad. How do you play basketball and not be able to shoot?

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Rita on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:56pm #

BREAKING NEWS:

NOTRE DAME HAS PURCHASED EXTRA HOT DOGS FOR NEXT YEAR.

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:58pm #

Maybe Ohio State should recruit Plexico Burress, I heard he could shoot pretty well...

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cgbuckeye on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:59pm #

i didn't expect a win tonight, but i was hoping that they wouldn't become a bunch of 3 chuckers

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GORDON IS A GEEK on 2 Dec 2008 - 9:59pm #

MSNBC says Weiss will continue as coach at ND.

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TLB on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:00pm #

I think I agree with ???

I see no improvement from the guys that were here last year. We run no offense, guys under the basket don't move and guys on the wings never cut or flash. We are, however, very good at dribbling from the side to the top, handing off and dribbling back to the side.....of course the guy that hands off just stands where he gave up the ball because he isn't allowed to move from that spot.

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??? on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:01pm #

where are these tressel to the browns rumors coming from? His senatorial approach would never work in this days nfl

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Tyler on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:04pm #

for fuck sake what was that?

Evan Turner plays borderline retarded at times. He's like a black Forrest Gump, all the athleticism in the world, no idea what to do with it.

How the hell do we still get 7 footers? We could Shaq down there, our guys would rather launch 50 threes a game than pass one down to the block.

We have absolutely NO OFFENSE. None. Our only chance to win this game is to rotate Crater on each of their players and hope he can get them ejected one by one.

Madsen....aw fuck it.

This team is going to make me miss Buckeye football and fat ass offensive lineman.

On a side note, stay classy Miami, stay classy.

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Jon on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:06pm #

Go Illini. Up by one on Clemson.

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:06pm #

Illinois is looking pretty good on The Deuce

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Tyler on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:07pm #

Plaxico would just shoot it into his own hoop.

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:07pm #

Best commercial on TV. The King, LBJ....

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poguemahone on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:12pm #

Can I blame our shooting problems on Jim Bollman?

No?

Well, shit. I'll do it anyway. FUCK YOU AND YOUR MUSTACHE

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:12pm #

Lauderdale is the next Dwight Howard...

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:15pm #

Different perspective? Crater was going for the ball, the other dude had malicious intent....

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cgbuckeye on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:16pm #

these announcers are assbags!!

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wsas on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:16pm #

Ryan B: I just heard that. I don't know how that makes the retaliation slap any better.

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Poe McKnoe on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:17pm #

relax, its espn.

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Poe McKnoe on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:21pm #

the announcers are just setting it up in case miami loses...they won't have their best player.

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BrutusReport on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:22pm #

The bucks have really stepped it up after halftime. Very nice run by the starters.

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??? on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:23pm #

they are playing aggressive on defense and they are actually getting someone to the middle of the zone causing the wings to collapse.... COACHIING!!!

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cgbuckeye on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:25pm #

finally someone driving to the hole

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Nik on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:26pm #

holy crap! i go to take a shit and we pull to within one!

should i stay in the bathroom whenever there's an OSU game for the rest of the season?

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TLB on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:27pm #

Lavin isn't too bad but that other guy is clearly from South Florida. He can't go 30 without mentioning the guy who threw a punch.

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Jason on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:28pm #

These dudes are killing me. Chicken and the egg? Good defense that leads to a foul is followed by a frustration slap. Please.

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TLB on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:29pm #

Someone tell Dave O'Brian that Crater's uncalled foul was within the context of the play, trying to defend a player. The other guy took a little girl swing with an open hand.

That shot was crap and will be out death. We don't have the mental toughness to overcome something like that.

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Poe McKnoe on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:29pm #

miami basketball has SEC speed. dammit.

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??? on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:30pm #

no you shouldnt stay in the bathroom these pre madonnas should get their asses together and play the game that is paying for them to go to college

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:31pm #

The Ghost is back!

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Jason on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:31pm #

Threebler becoming a man right in front of our eyes.

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TLB on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:31pm #

jackass..........use two hands

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:32pm #

Oh man, that would have been number 1 in the top ten plays!!!

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??? on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:32pm #

mullens thinks this is and one basketball

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Poe McKnoe on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:32pm #

told ya. setting it up in case miami loses. its what they do.

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Jason on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:33pm #

Swatterdale will be back soon to hopefully take some of Hurdle's drives away.

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cgbuckeye on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:33pm #

good call

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TLB on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:36pm #

They put a point up, so I guess he made the 2nd freethrow.

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Jason on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:37pm #

Good drive and dish out of Turner.

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:38pm #

FREE throws, geez, unbelievable...

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:41pm #

Jedi Master? Been waiting all night for that one huh...

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TLB on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:42pm #

That the same Turner that played in the first half?

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Jason on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:42pm #

Lavin is a reader?

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Poe McKnoe on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:43pm #

best player, best player, best player

took a swipe at another player.

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Jon on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:43pm #

Holy crap, it's like watching two completely different teams.

Will the announcers shut up about McClinton aleady?

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TLB on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:46pm #

It isn't announcers......it's announcer. The play by play guy clearly doesn't understand the game or the rule.

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:48pm #

Top play nominee

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Dubs on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:49pm #

That was a solid dunk to say the least.

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:51pm #

A tale of two halves.....

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Rita on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:51pm #

BREAKING NEWS:

NOTRE DAME WILL SUCK AGAIN NEXT YEAR!

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Jason on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:52pm #

Hope we can hit some free throws.

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TLB on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:53pm #

Mullens doesn't have very good hands.

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iball on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:53pm #

Is that Allen Iverson? The armband thru me off.
Play some D then scream and yell '00'.

Any news on Harangody's status for Saturday???

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:54pm #

I imagine he will still be out with pneumonia...

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TLB on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:55pm #

Looks like Iowa was not able to pull it off.

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Jason on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:55pm #

Diebler has 20 and Turner has 16 with 7 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 blocks.

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Jason on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:56pm #

Damn, BJ, nice touch.

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TLB on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:56pm #

I'll say it again. The play by play guys has no idea about the game or the rules.

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iball on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:57pm #

Looks like Thad is trying to get 3yr. guys, and the occasional one and dones.
They remind me alot of his old Xavier teams.

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:57pm #

Diebler with some D!

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TLB on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:58pm #

Dumb

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Poe McKnoe on 2 Dec 2008 - 10:58pm #

cheap cheap cheap foul ass hat

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flipbuckeye on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:01pm #

LOL. Fail.

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Ryan B. on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:01pm #

turnover, make a shot/free throw and the game is O V.

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Jon on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:02pm #

55% FT PCT?
That's just awful.

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TLB on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:06pm #

WINNER!!!!

Don't know how, rumor has it their best player got tossed.

I'll take it.

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Jason on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:07pm #

Heck of a win out of these youngsters. Turner is going to eat the Big Ten up.

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iball on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:07pm #

Anyone rooting Purdue??

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cgbuckeye on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:07pm #

new game plan. get notre dames best player tossed and start moving around on offense

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Poe McKnoe on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:09pm #

I like Duke, except in this challenge.

Boiler Up!

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poguemahone on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:10pm #

Badass. Do we get the Domers at home or on the road?

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Poe McKnoe on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:10pm #

Did I just see Notre Dame scored 102 in their win? Ouch.

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TLB on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:11pm #

Doris Burke sure is fugly

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iball on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:12pm #

Bucks do no worse than third in B10, you heard it here.

They'll definitely challenge for the title, also.

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Nik on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:13pm #

well, we did our part finally, maybe the B10 can win the "challenge" now

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iball on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:13pm #

The ND game is in Indy, right??

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Jon on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:15pm #

iball - Lucas Oil Stadium, Saturday 4PM.

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Matt on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:16pm #

Was the flagrant foul on Miami that bad? Or ticky tack? I missed it.

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Jon on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:19pm #

Matt - It was kind of a slap by McClinton. There was no blood, apparently.

The ESPN crew was pushing the idea that Crater slapped him first. He was reaching for the ball and hit McClinton, which should have been a foul. McClinton's girl slap was flagrant.

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Palm Beach Buckeye on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:31pm #

I live in south Florida and my phone was ringing off the hook during the first half from Miami fans wanting to gloat and taunt me. Got a little quieter in the second half and then dead silent from 5 left in the game until now... 30 minutes after the game. I have some phone calls to return!!!!!!!!!!!! I am loving tonite.... how the hell did we win??? Either best coaching in the 2nd half or best choke job of 2008 (so far)..... nice personal foul to seal the loss douche bag McClinton. Crater reached in and should have had a foul called... McClinton reacted like a girl in a slap fight and got tossed..... dick!!!! We own the Canes and they know it. Can't wait for the football home and home in 2010 and 2011--- Pryor is gonna run wild.

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Tom Blogical on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:42pm #

Man, great game. I was pleasantly surprised.

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scott on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:48pm #

great job bucks. looked like two totally different teams: shaky and then confident. is it true that they didn't turn the ball over in the second half? i believe this is what Thad envisioned when he recruited turner & diebler. anyone know their 2nd half scoring efficiency? they seemed to score at will. i thought mullens made some progress as well. he just needs time to get comfortable and used to the competition at this level.

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Poe McKnoe on 2 Dec 2008 - 11:52pm #

Hey, I heard Miami's best player was out for the game...

Can I make a bad Will Allen/Willis McGahee joke? Please

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scott on 3 Dec 2008 - 12:05am #

i wonder if the mcclinton ejection will be the lead item on sportscenter. enough already. i'm glad bilas was able to provide some rational thought. i don't see all the controversy?

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Poe McKnoe on 3 Dec 2008 - 12:07am #

Wait...One more joke before I go.

Do you think Miami will blame this loss on a bad call by the officials?

God, I could keep going.

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Tom Blogical on 3 Dec 2008 - 12:16am #

"Do you think Miami will blame this loss on a bad call by the officials?"

Is that a rhetorical question?

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Tom Blogical on 3 Dec 2008 - 12:18am #

"Maybe Ohio State should recruit Plexico Burress, I heard he could shoot pretty well…"

Nope. Plaxico actually dribbled it off his leg.

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Bart Shleester on 3 Dec 2008 - 1:40am #

I love how these haters like "???" go back under the bridge when the Bucks start winning. That troll is a douche bag. That being said, nice win on the road and a good resume builder for the NCAA toournament. Diebler might be the most improved from last year...although Swatterdale still deserves the nod. That 360 by Turner was dirty. Remember you hyper critical, non athletic, panties in a bunge haters out there, this team is YOUNG - lighty is your most expeirenced dude on the floor...give them some time and the next thing you know Matta's won 20 and they'll be a team in the tournament you won't want to play.

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