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Miami Open Thread

Tipoff: 7:00PM ET
Previews: 11W
Favorite: Miami (-8)
Television: ESPN
Radio: OSU Basketball Affiliates

Ohio State will be looking to improve their ACC/B10 Challenge record to 3-5 overall, when they make the quick trip down to Miami to face the #22 Hurricanes.

Miami has yet to win a game in their two previous challenge tries, but have won 28 of their last 30 home games against unranked OOC opponents. The ACC holds a 33-4 mark at home during the ESPN made-for-TV event.

The young Buckeyes hopefully packed their offensive gymbags, after getting trounced by Texas A&M, Butler and UNC last year around this time. If you remember, Thad’s boys went bucketless during large stretches in each of those games and averaged just 49 points. The ‘Canes start 2 seniors and 3 juniors, so this looks to be another daunting early season task for Ohio State.

With the most recent Buckeye offensive output still fresh on my mind, I don’t have a great feeling about pulling off the upset against a veteran team such as Miami. The defense should be there, but I just can’t see enough points being scored by the Bucks. However, that doesn’t mean we still can’t discuss the game as it goes on and look to see if a couple of aspects of this team can emerge.

Three burning questions:

  1. Which David Lighty and Jon Diebler will show up tonight?
  2. Can Evan Turner and Dallas Swatterdale continue their improvement?
  3. Can either Jeremie Simmons or Anthony Crater drive and dish to get the stagnant offense a jump start?
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139 Responses

  1. ShoeWorker says:

    Quick question - does anyone know a good website for buckeye football archives? - with game by game info from seasons in the 90s and possibly earlier

  2. cgbuckeye says:

    Bucks definitely need to keep the turnovers down tonight!

  3. Nik says:

    columbus dispatch actually just set one up recently

    http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/buckeyextra/database/OSUresults.html

  4. cgbuckeye says:

    Turnover!

  5. ??? says:

    Is it just me or do Matta’s teams have no idea how to break a zone defense? I have yet to see them drive or put someone get to the middle to open it up

  6. corey says:

    too many 3’s to start

  7. cgbuckeye says:

    finally a little life!

  8. ??? says:

    this could be a very long day

  9. Nik says:

    very long… =(

  10. ??? says:

    turner is not all he is cracked up to be…he is athletic but has zero basketball knowledge

  11. ??? says:

    way to miss 3 in a row dallas thats effective

  12. Kris says:

    bucks look like shit….sorry but its true

  13. cgbuckeye says:

    I’ve noticed a trend with him at the line in the first two games. not good

  14. OhFoSho says:

    Plenty of time to turn things around

  15. Kris says:

    Matta did’n have these boys ready to play tonite.

  16. cgbuckeye says:

    horrible shot by buford!

  17. ??? says:

    put evan on the bench for a while and let him calm down

  18. cgbuckeye says:

    those are killing us

  19. ??? says:

    do we practice boxing out or rebounding?

  20. cgbuckeye says:

    what was that????

  21. ??? says:

    lavin just sounds dumb…the kid swiped and poked him in the eye and he says it wasnt bad because it was open handed

  22. cgbuckeye says:

    doesn’t make a difference. Intent was there.

  23. corey says:

    can’t cheat bitches

  24. cgbuckeye says:

    bout time diebs

  25. Poe McKnoe says:

    good thing we know the U is still the U

  26. ??? says:

    here is my question, they are tossing the kid for a play that occured before the 3 pt shot was made shouldnt the shot not count?

  27. Ryan B. says:

    Think Miami fans are still bitter about 2002?

  28. corey says:

    good point ??? I’m just waiting for a post entry pass from OSU

  29. Ryan B. says:

    Lighty is scared to shoot….

  30. ??? says:

    we miss shots and our entire team is sitting around the 3 pt line wondering why the ball wasnt in their hand….this is going to be a long long season

  31. cgbuckeye says:

    i just thought the same thing!!!

  32. wsas says:

    Where’s the live blog.

  33. Ryan B. says:

    He’s scared to shoot but he can take a charge :)

  34. Poe McKnoe says:

    I’ll live blog your face.

  35. Poe McKnoe says:

    which offense is worse? football or baseball?

  36. Ryan B. says:

    Wow, this is embarassing…

  37. Poe McKnoe says:

    ha basketball. i suck at life.

  38. wsas says:

    Poe, you talk back like that, and I’ll make you watch this first half over and over.

  39. Ryan B. says:

    Hmm, I wonder if Thad misses Ron Lewis…

  40. ??? says:

    ha ha ha we have two seven footers on the floor and they are whoring us down low

  41. cgbuckeye says:

    nobody within 5 feet of the hoop. it’s 3 or nothing

  42. wsas says:

    2nd time that’s happened. Offensive rebound, and look to pass it out immediately. Turn around = easy layup. They look lost.

  43. ??? says:

    its 3 pointers or bust for us and we arent that good at shooting three pointers

  44. GORDON IS A GEEK says:

    What’s this shit about Tressel GOING to the Browns?!!? So, does that mean Meyer comes to Ohio State?

  45. Ryan B. says:

    Tressel isn’t going anywhere. He will retire a Buckeye…

  46. TLB says:

    This team is awful. Good thing the Big10 is bad again this year, we might make it to the NIT again.

  47. Jason says:

    First tough road test for a lot of the youngsters. And they’re proving their youth.

  48. wsas says:

    David Lighty looks like the worst player on the floor at any point in time.

  49. Jon says:

    Worst half I have seen since the debacle in the LA Coliseum.

  50. ??? says:

    they arent just proving their youth, they are proving they are not coached….there are zero fundamentals against this team

  51. Ryan B. says:

    Pretty bad. How do you play basketball and not be able to shoot?

  52. Rita says:

    BREAKING NEWS:

    NOTRE DAME HAS PURCHASED EXTRA HOT DOGS FOR NEXT YEAR.

  53. Ryan B. says:

    Maybe Ohio State should recruit Plexico Burress, I heard he could shoot pretty well…

  54. cgbuckeye says:

    i didn’t expect a win tonight, but i was hoping that they wouldn’t become a bunch of 3 chuckers

  55. GORDON IS A GEEK says:

    MSNBC says Weiss will continue as coach at ND.

  56. TLB says:

    I think I agree with ???

    I see no improvement from the guys that were here last year. We run no offense, guys under the basket don’t move and guys on the wings never cut or flash. We are, however, very good at dribbling from the side to the top, handing off and dribbling back to the side…..of course the guy that hands off just stands where he gave up the ball because he isn’t allowed to move from that spot.

  57. ??? says:

    where are these tressel to the browns rumors coming from? His senatorial approach would never work in this days nfl

  58. Tyler says:

    for fuck sake what was that?

    Evan Turner plays borderline retarded at times. He’s like a black Forrest Gump, all the athleticism in the world, no idea what to do with it.

    How the hell do we still get 7 footers? We could Shaq down there, our guys would rather launch 50 threes a game than pass one down to the block.

    We have absolutely NO OFFENSE. None. Our only chance to win this game is to rotate Crater on each of their players and hope he can get them ejected one by one.

    Madsen….aw fuck it.

    This team is going to make me miss Buckeye football and fat ass offensive lineman.

    On a side note, stay classy Miami, stay classy.

  59. Jon says:

    Go Illini. Up by one on Clemson.

  60. Ryan B. says:

    Illinois is looking pretty good on The Deuce

  61. Tyler says:

    Plaxico would just shoot it into his own hoop.

  62. Ryan B. says:

    Best commercial on TV. The King, LBJ….

  63. poguemahone says:

    Can I blame our shooting problems on Jim Bollman?

    No?

    Well, shit. I’ll do it anyway. FUCK YOU AND YOUR MUSTACHE

  64. Ryan B. says:

    Lauderdale is the next Dwight Howard…

  65. Ryan B. says:

    Different perspective? Crater was going for the ball, the other dude had malicious intent….

  66. cgbuckeye says:

    these announcers are assbags!!

  67. wsas says:

    Ryan B: I just heard that. I don’t know how that makes the retaliation slap any better.

  68. Poe McKnoe says:

    relax, its espn.

  69. Poe McKnoe says:

    the announcers are just setting it up in case miami loses…they won’t have their best player.

  70. BrutusReport says:

    The bucks have really stepped it up after halftime. Very nice run by the starters.

  71. ??? says:

    they are playing aggressive on defense and they are actually getting someone to the middle of the zone causing the wings to collapse…. COACHIING!!!

  72. cgbuckeye says:

    finally someone driving to the hole

  73. Nik says:

    holy crap! i go to take a shit and we pull to within one!

    should i stay in the bathroom whenever there’s an OSU game for the rest of the season?

  74. TLB says:

    Lavin isn’t too bad but that other guy is clearly from South Florida. He can’t go 30 without mentioning the guy who threw a punch.

  75. Jason says:

    These dudes are killing me. Chicken and the egg? Good defense that leads to a foul is followed by a frustration slap. Please.

  76. TLB says:

    Someone tell Dave O’Brian that Crater’s uncalled foul was within the context of the play, trying to defend a player. The other guy took a little girl swing with an open hand.

    That shot was crap and will be out death. We don’t have the mental toughness to overcome something like that.

  77. Poe McKnoe says:

    miami basketball has SEC speed. dammit.

  78. ??? says:

    no you shouldnt stay in the bathroom these pre madonnas should get their asses together and play the game that is paying for them to go to college

  79. Ryan B. says:

    The Ghost is back!

  80. Jason says:

    Threebler becoming a man right in front of our eyes.

  81. TLB says:

    jackass……….use two hands

  82. Ryan B. says:

    Oh man, that would have been number 1 in the top ten plays!!!

  83. ??? says:

    mullens thinks this is and one basketball

  84. Poe McKnoe says:

    told ya. setting it up in case miami loses. its what they do.

  85. Jason says:

    Swatterdale will be back soon to hopefully take some of Hurdle’s drives away.

  86. cgbuckeye says:

    good call

  87. TLB says:

    They put a point up, so I guess he made the 2nd freethrow.

  88. Jason says:

    Good drive and dish out of Turner.

  89. Ryan B. says:

    FREE throws, geez, unbelievable…

  90. Ryan B. says:

    Jedi Master? Been waiting all night for that one huh…

  91. TLB says:

    That the same Turner that played in the first half?

  92. Jason says:

    Lavin is a reader?

  93. Poe McKnoe says:

    best player, best player, best player

    took a swipe at another player.

  94. Jon says:

    Holy crap, it’s like watching two completely different teams.

    Will the announcers shut up about McClinton aleady?

  95. TLB says:

    It isn’t announcers……it’s announcer. The play by play guy clearly doesn’t understand the game or the rule.

  96. Ryan B. says:

    Top play nominee

  97. Dubs says:

    That was a solid dunk to say the least.

  98. Ryan B. says:

    A tale of two halves…..

  99. Rita says:

    BREAKING NEWS:

    NOTRE DAME WILL SUCK AGAIN NEXT YEAR!

  100. Jason says:

    Hope we can hit some free throws.

  101. cgbuckeye says:

    FREETHROWS!!!!!!!!!

  102. TLB says:

    Mullens doesn’t have very good hands.

  103. iball says:

    Is that Allen Iverson? The armband thru me off.
    Play some D then scream and yell ‘00′.

    Any news on Harangody’s status for Saturday???

  104. Ryan B. says:

    I imagine he will still be out with pneumonia…

  105. TLB says:

    Looks like Iowa was not able to pull it off.

  106. Jason says:

    Diebler has 20 and Turner has 16 with 7 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 blocks.

  107. Jason says:

    Damn, BJ, nice touch.

  108. TLB says:

    I’ll say it again. The play by play guys has no idea about the game or the rules.

  109. iball says:

    Looks like Thad is trying to get 3yr. guys, and the occasional one and dones.
    They remind me alot of his old Xavier teams.

  110. Ryan B. says:

    Diebler with some D!

  111. TLB says:

    Dumb

  112. Poe McKnoe says:

    cheap cheap cheap foul ass hat

  113. Ryan B. says:

    turnover, make a shot/free throw and the game is O V.

  114. Jon says:

    55% FT PCT?
    That’s just awful.

  115. TLB says:

    WINNER!!!!

    Don’t know how, rumor has it their best player got tossed.

    I’ll take it.

  116. Jason says:

    Heck of a win out of these youngsters. Turner is going to eat the Big Ten up.

  117. iball says:

    Anyone rooting Purdue??

  118. cgbuckeye says:

    new game plan. get notre dames best player tossed and start moving around on offense

  119. Poe McKnoe says:

    I like Duke, except in this challenge.

    Boiler Up!

  120. poguemahone says:

    Badass. Do we get the Domers at home or on the road?

  121. Poe McKnoe says:

    Did I just see Notre Dame scored 102 in their win? Ouch.

  122. TLB says:

    Doris Burke sure is fugly

  123. iball says:

    Bucks do no worse than third in B10, you heard it here.

    They’ll definitely challenge for the title, also.

  124. Nik says:

    well, we did our part finally, maybe the B10 can win the “challenge” now

  125. iball says:

    The ND game is in Indy, right??

  126. Jon says:

    iball - Lucas Oil Stadium, Saturday 4PM.

  127. Matt says:

    Was the flagrant foul on Miami that bad? Or ticky tack? I missed it.

  128. Jon says:

    Matt - It was kind of a slap by McClinton. There was no blood, apparently.

    The ESPN crew was pushing the idea that Crater slapped him first. He was reaching for the ball and hit McClinton, which should have been a foul. McClinton’s girl slap was flagrant.

  129. Palm Beach Buckeye says:

    I live in south Florida and my phone was ringing off the hook during the first half from Miami fans wanting to gloat and taunt me. Got a little quieter in the second half and then dead silent from 5 left in the game until now… 30 minutes after the game. I have some phone calls to return!!!!!!!!!!!! I am loving tonite…. how the hell did we win??? Either best coaching in the 2nd half or best choke job of 2008 (so far)….. nice personal foul to seal the loss douche bag McClinton. Crater reached in and should have had a foul called… McClinton reacted like a girl in a slap fight and got tossed….. dick!!!! We own the Canes and they know it. Can’t wait for the football home and home in 2010 and 2011— Pryor is gonna run wild.

  130. Tom Blogical says:

    Man, great game. I was pleasantly surprised.

  131. scott says:

    great job bucks. looked like two totally different teams: shaky and then confident. is it true that they didn’t turn the ball over in the second half? i believe this is what Thad envisioned when he recruited turner & diebler. anyone know their 2nd half scoring efficiency? they seemed to score at will. i thought mullens made some progress as well. he just needs time to get comfortable and used to the competition at this level.

  132. Poe McKnoe says:

    Hey, I heard Miami’s best player was out for the game…

    Can I make a bad Will Allen/Willis McGahee joke? Please

  133. scott says:

    i wonder if the mcclinton ejection will be the lead item on sportscenter. enough already. i’m glad bilas was able to provide some rational thought. i don’t see all the controversy?

  134. Poe McKnoe says:

    Wait…One more joke before I go.

    Do you think Miami will blame this loss on a bad call by the officials?

    God, I could keep going.

  135. Tom Blogical says:

    “Do you think Miami will blame this loss on a bad call by the officials?”

    Is that a rhetorical question?

  136. Tom Blogical says:

    “Maybe Ohio State should recruit Plexico Burress, I heard he could shoot pretty well…”

    Nope. Plaxico actually dribbled it off his leg.

  137. Bart Shleester says:

    I love how these haters like “???” go back under the bridge when the Bucks start winning. That troll is a douche bag. That being said, nice win on the road and a good resume builder for the NCAA toournament. Diebler might be the most improved from last year…although Swatterdale still deserves the nod. That 360 by Turner was dirty. Remember you hyper critical, non athletic, panties in a bunge haters out there, this team is YOUNG - lighty is your most expeirenced dude on the floor…give them some time and the next thing you know Matta’s won 20 and they’ll be a team in the tournament you won’t want to play.

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