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Championship Saturday/Notre Dame Open Thread

Alachua County, Fashion Capital of the South

Time flies when you're alternating between having fun and crying over a stale offense. Here we are -- the final Saturday* of the 2008 college football season. One last opportunity to show off your remote-fu and take in as much of the action a possible.

We're staring at 12 solid hours of football, including the collision between undefeated Bama and Tebow-powered Florida in the SEC championship at 4PM.

Of course there's another pretty big game tipping off at 4PM, but it will only be seen by the four of you that get ESPNU.

If you are fortunate enough to get the Buckeye hoops game, feel free to fill the rest of us mere plebs in via your lively comments. We want the news of Evan Turner's first triple-double to come via comment.

If you happen to be stuck watching conference championships and the various rivalry games, you know the drill. I'm sure we can project the failures of whatever offense happens to be stalling on to Bollman in some manner.

* Note to the semantics brigade: I realize there are some bowls that fall on Saturday, but you get my point.

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Tom Blogical on 6 Dec 2008 - 10:13am #

Good gravy train. What is the name of that "hairstyle"?

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Tyler on 6 Dec 2008 - 10:32am #

That is EASILY the greatest picture ever captured on camera. I hope he's taking a picture of a mirror, if not, that camera is being wasted.

I'm not sure what that hairstyle is Tom, but I sure do want one.

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Tom Blogical on 6 Dec 2008 - 11:21am #

There are just so many things wrong with that picture it's amazing.

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Tom Blogical on 6 Dec 2008 - 11:24am #

"Will you use the weather as an excuse to stay in and watch more sports?"

I don't need an excuse for that. I follow Nike's motto with that. Just do it.

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PALM BEACH BUCKEYE on 6 Dec 2008 - 12:00pm #

ESPNU.... does anyone get that network?? Comcast in my are doesn't even offer it at all.... and I have the extended sports package. My kids (and I) are very pissed off that we can't watch that game. If this game was played any day but Saturday, it would be on ESPN, no one wants competition for the college football games.

That picture sums up Gator fans in a nutshell.... Gainsville is where men are men------------- and sheep are nervous. Are you my Daaaaaaaadddd y???

Go Bucks, pound the Irish!

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Aesculus Californica on 6 Dec 2008 - 12:04pm #

He's missing the worn out circle in his jorts where he keeps his Skoal bandits. It must be on the right side where we can't see it.

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ajw on 6 Dec 2008 - 12:05pm #

time warner has espnU. and here in cincy they just added espnuHD to the HD tier. not that I will be able to watch much of anything today. have to go to a damn wedding.

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Poe McKnoe on 6 Dec 2008 - 12:39pm #

I'm changing my name to TimTebow_FAN_4_Lyfe.

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TimTebow_FAN_4_Lyfe on 6 Dec 2008 - 12:39pm #

Seriously.

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sam on 6 Dec 2008 - 12:52pm #

that pic is unreal

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eScoutRoom on 6 Dec 2008 - 1:36pm #

Great picture. If you can't dress like it's 1975 what good are the weekends?
The OSU Basketball game should be good. I hope Turner gets hot early and stays active all 40 minutes.

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eFilmRoom on 6 Dec 2008 - 1:37pm #

Hoping that Tebow blows it today and has no shot at the Heisman. Leaving Archie the only 2 time winner.

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ToledoBen on 6 Dec 2008 - 1:42pm #

Buckeye Cable system in NWO has ESPNU in HD.

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1975 on 6 Dec 2008 - 2:09pm #

F-that. Even we didn't dress like that.

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1987 on 6 Dec 2008 - 2:18pm #

That's more my style.

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texasbuckeye on 6 Dec 2008 - 2:22pm #

RCN here in Boston has ESPNU

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sean on 6 Dec 2008 - 4:12pm #

I believe the official name for that hairdo is "The Offender". Its "in your face" and lets everyone know that you won't back down and your willing to go the distance. This dude is an Urban Guerilla

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Brian on 6 Dec 2008 - 4:21pm #

That picture clearly shows why the SEC fans are the class of college football.

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jared on 6 Dec 2008 - 4:27pm #

so is harangody def. out yet or has it not been announced?

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Brian on 6 Dec 2008 - 4:29pm #

What a busy day, the guy was at the game in the afternoon then on COPS that night. Tuesday he'll be making an appearance on Springer.

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COB on 6 Dec 2008 - 4:38pm #

Just wondering about this man's affinity for "T-Bone"...just...wow. For those looking for the skoal circle in the jorts: alas, I am assuming this southpaw super-star is a redman envelope connoisseur. Out of hound, indeed.

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kda on 6 Dec 2008 - 4:54pm #

Seriously off the chain!!!

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TimTebow_FAN_4_Lyfe on 6 Dec 2008 - 5:04pm #

Urban Meyer approves of the haircut.

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TimTebow_FAN_4_Lyfe on 6 Dec 2008 - 5:33pm #

MUST. MUTE. CBS.

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poguemahone on 6 Dec 2008 - 5:34pm #

I blame Boston College's turrible offense on Jim Bollman.

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Tim on 6 Dec 2008 - 5:52pm #

And people in the ESS-EEEE-SEEEE say its weird that we wear jersey's of our favorite school. Let he with a good fashion sense cast the first stone.

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T on 6 Dec 2008 - 6:04pm #

Harangody is playing for those with no ESPNU

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Anonymous Internet Person on 6 Dec 2008 - 6:15pm #

Buckeyes down 6-2. Haragody has all 6 points. Swatterdale hass 2 blocks and a bucket.

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T on 6 Dec 2008 - 6:17pm #

Announcers fucking awful

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Corey on 6 Dec 2008 - 6:17pm #

Diebler has 2 fouls 4 minutes into the game

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Corey on 6 Dec 2008 - 6:24pm #

Buford with 5 quick points off the bench. Bucks down 11-8 at 12 minute mark. The defense came to play.

Stadium must be 25% full.

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Jason on 6 Dec 2008 - 6:26pm #

Shame about the crowd in Indy. Meanwhile, Tebow just threw a perfect ball for the early lead.

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T on 6 Dec 2008 - 6:29pm #

17-15 Bucks

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Corey on 6 Dec 2008 - 6:29pm #

Turner had 2 straight steals and Bucks take the lead

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Jason on 6 Dec 2008 - 6:30pm #

Bama answered in two plays. The Alabama crowd shots are priceless.

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Corey on 6 Dec 2008 - 6:42pm #

ND went on 7-2 run to take 24-21 lead with 3:14 to play. Harangody has 10 points and 10 boards.

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T on 6 Dec 2008 - 6:48pm #

Buford!

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Corey on 6 Dec 2008 - 6:50pm #

OSU takes 30-28 lead into half.

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Jason on 6 Dec 2008 - 6:52pm #

Nine first half points for a coming out party?

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T on 6 Dec 2008 - 6:53pm #

Buford has a sick pull-up J

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Jason on 6 Dec 2008 - 6:55pm #

Bama is coming out and punching the Gators in the mouth.

Their defense has played tough and the offensive line is starting to grind Florida down a bit. Look pretty tough on each side of the line, really.

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Corey on 6 Dec 2008 - 6:56pm #

Yea Buford has been smooth thus far, but still has defensive lapses. Turner is usual stud self with 8 points/4 boards/2 steals and assists.

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Corey on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:01pm #

UCLA is up 7-0, fumble and missed FG for USC

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Corey on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:11pm #

Turner is putting on a show, 6 points already in 2nd half.

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T on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:13pm #

Diebs back to being Diebs

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Jason on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:23pm #

UCLA broke their string of three-and-outs when Rey pulled out one of the dirtiest hits of the season.

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Sgt. Elias on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:31pm #

Any score update? I'm at work :(

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Corey on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:32pm #

OSU up 54-48 with 8 to go. Turner has 14 in 2nd half.

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T on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:36pm #

58-51 Bucks. 6:28 to go

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Sgt. Elias on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:37pm #

Thx fellas

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Corey on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:38pm #

osu up 60-51 with 6 to play

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Jason on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:39pm #

Meanwhile, the Canes are bombing threes at Rupp.

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Corey on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:50pm #

63-62 OSU with 26 seconds left.

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T on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:50pm #

63-62 Bucks. 28 seconds. Bucks ball.

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Sgt. Elias on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:50pm #

Fcuk are we blowing it? I hate SI.com game flash. Too slow!

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T on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:52pm #

Turner going to the line

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T on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:54pm #

Fuck yeah

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TimTebow_FAN_4_Lyfe on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:55pm #

Awesome.

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COB on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:56pm #

Top 25 here we come.

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Jason on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:56pm #

Looks like we have ourselves a pretty damn good team.

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COB on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:57pm #

Any chance to stick it to ND...glorious

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Corey on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:57pm #

Bucks win 67-62! What a show by Turner in the second for 20 points.

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Jason on 6 Dec 2008 - 7:59pm #

20 in the second is nuts. Looks like they won the game at the line (14-16 vs. 7-13).

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Anonymous Internet Person on 6 Dec 2008 - 8:19pm #

Top 20 here we come. Thad's zone is becoming quite a work of art. The Irish looked lost. Turner has asserted himself in his role as leader with these last two 2nd half performances. WOW!

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flipbuckeye on 6 Dec 2008 - 8:23pm #

Bama ties it 17-17, and I'm officially a believer.

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GoBucks89 on 6 Dec 2008 - 8:28pm #

This is one heckuva football game. Every time I think I'm about to count 'bama out, they make a play or three.

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poguemahone on 6 Dec 2008 - 8:39pm #

Where are all those people who said we'd play Bama close? They're giving Florida, a team most vaguely rational Buckeye fans realize would blow us out of the building, a pretty good game.

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flipbuckeye on 6 Dec 2008 - 8:44pm #

I'll gladly eat my crow, I thought Florida would destroy Bama. Right now Bama is in total control, and it seems UF is only getting points off of big plays but can't consistently breakdown Bama's defense.

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bup bup bup on 6 Dec 2008 - 9:03pm #

yeah, these are pretty clearly two of the best 3 or 4 teams this year and would kill us head to head. if our d-line had another gholston and our offensive line was good, i'd say we'd have a shot against these guys, but as it is we just don't have the guys in the trenches we'd need to compete with these teams

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flipbuckeye on 6 Dec 2008 - 9:07pm #

Not looking good for Bama.

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flipbuckeye on 6 Dec 2008 - 9:09pm #

Game. The earlier facemask penalty on Bama cost them the game IMO.

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poguemahone on 6 Dec 2008 - 9:13pm #

bup bup bup - yeeees, come to the dark side. We don't have the horses on either line to compete with Bama, Florida, Okie, and probably Texas. We certainly don't have the coaches on either line.

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Poe McKnoe on 6 Dec 2008 - 9:14pm #

Both my ears fell off hearing about how Tim Tebow beat Alabama all by himself.

I mean, holy shit, Tebow is good and I'd gladly take him on my team, but fuck man, you'd think he owned CBS. Or regularly gave them handjobs.

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bup bup bup on 6 Dec 2008 - 9:19pm #

i've been saying that forever, though. with that said, of all the options you gave, texas is the team we're most likely to beat; our secondary would be pretty easily the best one texas has played, and they never really developed a running threat. if it were boeckman behind our line i'd say no chance, but pryor's scrambling ability would give us opportunities we otherwise wouldn't have.

but looking at the d-lines for bama and florida... ugh. forget it. although i think there's a possiblity OU stomps florida in the NC game

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Poe McKnoe on 6 Dec 2008 - 9:21pm #

Over/under for how many points they score tonight?
62

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El Caballo de Sangre on 6 Dec 2008 - 9:21pm #

Dude - Florida will score 60 on Oklahoma.

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Rob on 6 Dec 2008 - 9:23pm #

Commentator: "I'm not watching that game (BSC) if Florida's not in it!"

WTF?

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El Caballo de Sangre on 6 Dec 2008 - 9:23pm #

Gators with a healthy Harvin (which is not at all like a Hungry Hungry Hippo) going against a Big 12 defense? Even a Bob Stoops one? It'll be ugly.

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bup bup bup on 6 Dec 2008 - 9:24pm #

i dunno man. i'm just going with my gut, i think OU might pull a michigan and beat the living hell out of tebow and come out blazing with bradford. we'll see how you feel about the matchup if OU destroys mizzou tonight

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bup bup bup on 6 Dec 2008 - 9:27pm #

also i just feel like this is a rehash of 2006, with florida and alabama in the place of us and michigan. the SEC is not a strong conference this year, and neither team has been challenged with anyone but each other.

i dunno. i don't want to anoint florida as unstoppable until they beat everyone.

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Rob on 6 Dec 2008 - 9:28pm #

Urban: "Hell of a football game". Shhh, don't tell Tebow.

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Poe McKnoe on 6 Dec 2008 - 9:32pm #

I know other fans hate Jim Tressel...but Urban Meyer gives me the creeps whenever he talks. I feel like he's trying to steal my shoes off my feet.

He's a blowhard who needs to have his team HANDLED by someone. I'd feel that way even if they didn't pummel Ohio State in 06. Him and Spurrier need to have their teams crushed, it always happens to Spurrier tho.

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El Caballo de Sangre on 6 Dec 2008 - 9:47pm #

Well Bup, of course I could be wrong...but OU stomping out Mizzou by however many won't change my thinking, because it will have happened against freaking Mizzou - I EXPECT them to be destroyed.

I mean, seriously: Alabama is a very, very strong - dare I say dominant - defensive team, and Saban is one of the great defensive minds in the college game. And for large stretches of that game today, they were rendered all but helpless to stop the Gators.

I'm as tired of Tebow and as hostile to Meyer as anyone, but Jebus that's a juggernaut.

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bup bup bup on 6 Dec 2008 - 9:57pm #

i dunno. maybe i'm just not looking at it right, but the way i saw it bama made a lot of dumb defensive mistakes in the secondary to hurt their chances. i guess we'll find out in a month or so though.

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Jason on 6 Dec 2008 - 10:05pm #

Hopefully JT saw how Herban put that pistol to work for the Gators. I really like the inside screen.

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El Caballo de Sangre on 6 Dec 2008 - 10:05pm #

And, just to be clear: I'm not "anointing Florida as unstoppable". I will say this: if anybody has the offensive firepower to score with Florida AND enough defense to slow them down, it's the Sooners - they did hold Texas Tech to just 21, after all.

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El Caballo de Sangre on 6 Dec 2008 - 10:07pm #

Right on, Jason. The whole game I was thinking "We could do that!"

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Matt on 6 Dec 2008 - 10:21pm #

I don't know, the Sooners probably have a better chance of stopping UF than Texas does, but seeing USC again today; that defense is just so nasty. It's too bad they can't get up for the easy games, cause I would love to see the Trojans 12-0 and going up against Florida. It's the same old song and dance with them though; maybe the most talented at the end of the season when it's all said and done, able to beat anyone on a neutral field, but lacking the focus and discipline and team cohesion to win all the games, big and small. I wonder when Caroll is going to get those guys focused for all 12 games and win another title.

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Tom Blogical on 6 Dec 2008 - 10:26pm #

What's going on in the B-Ball game? I don't have ESPNU.

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bup bup bup on 6 Dec 2008 - 10:28pm #

we won is what's going on

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Poe McKnoe on 6 Dec 2008 - 10:42pm #

Yea. Michigan beat Duke too. POWER CONFERENCE!

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Matt on 6 Dec 2008 - 11:06pm #

Buckeyes better be ranked in the next poll or thats some shit

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poguemahone on 6 Dec 2008 - 11:21pm #

Buckeyes have surprised basically everyone, haven't they? Hopefully the good karma emanating from the Schott will help the footballers out in the bowl game.

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bup bup bup on 6 Dec 2008 - 11:26pm #

swatterdale had another 6 blocks, BOOSH

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Tom Blogical on 6 Dec 2008 - 11:29pm #

WOW. I'm starting to be a believer in this team.

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Tom Blogical on 6 Dec 2008 - 11:30pm #

True dat, pogue.

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Tom Blogical on 6 Dec 2008 - 11:31pm #

I can't believe I missed the comments about us winning around 5:00pm. OOOPS!

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Poe McKnoe on 6 Dec 2008 - 11:38pm #

If Beanie played for Oklahoma, he would have had eleventy-billion yards this year.

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Cicero Buck on 6 Dec 2008 - 11:40pm #

Urban Meyer does need to be taken behind the shed and spanked. He showed us no respect two years ago and ran up the score on us when the game was in hand. He's a little prick.

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Matt on 6 Dec 2008 - 11:41pm #

Now we need Stoops to jack Bradfords stats to ensure Tebow doesn't match Archie's feat with two heismans. I still think McCoy is the front-runner but who knows with the media's love fest with #15.

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Poe McKnoe on 6 Dec 2008 - 11:45pm #

I always like playing new teams. We just played Texas in 06 with McCoy. They are obviously much better, but I always like seeing new match-ups.

Oklahoma and Florida scare me because Heacock would sit in a cover 2 zone all day and make Tebow and Bradford look like, well, Tebow and Bradford.

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Cicero Buck on 6 Dec 2008 - 11:49pm #

Missou sucks.

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Poe McKnoe on 6 Dec 2008 - 11:49pm #

Scratch that...Oklahoma is going to put up eleventy-billion points tonight.

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Cicero Buck on 6 Dec 2008 - 11:51pm #

And to think that Missou was EVER ranked #1 in the past two years...

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Cicero Buck on 6 Dec 2008 - 11:54pm #

Chase Daniel is awesome.

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poguemahone on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:03am #

Cicero - hmmm, I seem to remember a #1 team that was down 34-14 at the half, but that was in the national title game.

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:06am #

Yes it was the national title game.

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poguemahone on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:13am #

And that team was actually ranked number one at the time. Mizzou isn't.

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:14am #

Missou has never won a national championship.

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Matt on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:16am #

What's your point pogue? He wasn't saying that OSU deserved to be #1 for that game, he wasn't even talking the Buckeyes up, he was talking about Mizzou.

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:17am #

Big 12 National Defense Rank: (Yet 3 of these teams are ranked in the top 10 in the BCS)
Okla: 66th
Texas: 50th
Texas Tech: 72nd
Missouri: 92nd
Kansas: 96th
Baylor: 87th
Colorado: 79th
Iowa St: 112th
Kansas St: 118th
Nebraska: 67th
Okla St: 86th
A&M: 114th

The Big Twelve isn't thrilling me.

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poguemahone on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:18am #

The point is that it's stupid to say a team should "never have been ranked number one" because a full year after they were ranked number one they aren't even bothering to show up for a game.

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:20am #

Stupid and accurate.

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poguemahone on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:20am #

Even more so when your team has been ranked number one twice in the last two seasons and looked like a marginal top 15 team in both games at best.

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poguemahone on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:21am #

Alright, so Ohio State shouldn't have been ranked number one in 2002 because it stunk up the field in 2004 against Iowa. Makes perfect sense.

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:22am #

Missou was ranked #2 in early October of this year.

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poguemahone on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:23am #

And we ranked 3rd coming into the year. Your point?

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:26am #

We will be in a BCS game again. Missou won't. They are playing for the Big 12 conference title with the 92nd ranked defense in the country? They are horrible.

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Poe McKnoe on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:27am #

Do you think Ohio State can purchase Oklahoma's offensive coordinator? Or at least borrow him.

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:28am #

Now that is a pretty good idea Poe.

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poguemahone on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:29am #

Do you really think we belong in the BCS? If you do, that's the difference between you and me. Name one quality win for us. Can't do it for Mizzou either, but I can think of one for Boise State.

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:35am #

Yes, I think we do. We might not beat Texas, but we'll play better this time around. Unfortunately, until this thing is solved on the field, BCS choices won't be given to the most deserving, they will be given to the schools with the best tradition and fans that will travel. That ain't Boise. Until then, we can argue about the most deserving all day...Right now fags with computers decide.

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Matt on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:39am #

The only thing I hate worse than fags is fags with computers.

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poguemahone on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:41am #

Not to get into politics, but shut the fuck up Donny (Matt)

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:41am #

Or fags who coach Florida.

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poguemahone on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:42am #

and Cicero, for good measure.

Sure, we'll put more butts in the seats than Boise, but will we give Texas a better game? Our last five games against team with a pulse say an emphatic "no"

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bup bup bup on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:44am #

i think we'd play texas better than boise

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:44am #

Have faith poguemahone, it's all good.

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Tom Blogical on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:46am #

Ohio State played a much tougher schedule all year than Boise State did. If BSU gets it over OSU, they're basically getting credit for winning one game. According to Sagarin, OSU's SoS was 43, BSU's was 115. OSU played in the Big 10(11), which was rated 5th, the WAC was rated 10th.

I'm sure the other computer rankings were comparable. If BSU gets selected over Ohio State it would be an absolute outrage, IMHO.

Then of course, we have John Saunders on ABC tonight saying Florida beating Alabama, the #1 team in the nation in their Conference Championship game, doesn't deserve to be in the NC game because of their loss to Ole Miss. But then he turns right around and rewards Alabama for just losing to Florida and says they should go to the NC game.

Get these lunkheads out of any possible control of this situation and please...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD...bring on a playoff system. Please.

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Matt on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:53am #

What, fags with computers scare me, they sit at your computer and give you that come hither stare and they can type at high rates of words per minute and that implicates my own masculinity and I don't care how many times people tell me otherwise, I'm not gay if I don't enjoy the sex I have with other men who prefer men who own computers.

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:54am #

Brent just said John Cooper is playing center for Oklahoma. Why couldn't he have been that good when we had him??

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 1:02am #

Matt, that is twisted...but very funny.

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Matt on 7 Dec 2008 - 1:04am #

Bradford keeps getting robbed of TD passes right at the goalline, with these RBs getting the stats. He should have at least 4 or 5 on the night. Need to step it up and prevent any shot at the Tebow repeat.

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Matt on 7 Dec 2008 - 1:04am #

Er, Heisman repeat.

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 1:11am #

I think Missou is about to get back in this thing. If they win it they will be ranked #2 again.

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Matt on 7 Dec 2008 - 1:13am #

Im just watching it on gamecast now. Hasn't OU put in its garbage time defenders yet?

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El Caballo de Sangre on 7 Dec 2008 - 1:14am #

Anybody here remember a movie called Class?

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 1:15am #

No but John Cooper is in at center.

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 1:19am #

What it be about El C??

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 1:21am #

I know TBDITL plays our fight song alot, but Oklahoma is way out of control.

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 1:23am #

It's only a five possession game with 7:26 left.

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 1:26am #

Anybody see Army's camouflage uni's today? I thought they were kick ass.

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texasbuckeye on 7 Dec 2008 - 1:44am #

Cicero-
whats worse is that its the same 2 notes over and over. Not to mention the lyrics merely repeat Boomer Sooner, Boomer Sooner, Boomer Sooner.........over and over. Worst fight song over.

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 1:48am #

It's horrible.

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El Caballo de Sangre on 7 Dec 2008 - 1:51am #

It's just this '80's comedy about kids at a prep school - but all the "fag" talk (as much as I fucking hate it) made me think of a funny part in it.

It's pretty good though, and there's a ton of people in it that got famous later: Rob Lowe, Andrew McCarthy, John Cusack, Alan Ruck (that's Cameron in Ferris), Casey Siemaczko (sp?), Virginia Madsen (you get to see one of her boobs - woo hoo!). Also a really MILFy Jacqueline Bisset.

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 1:53am #

Fag talk is pretty funny though, you got to admit.

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poguemahone on 7 Dec 2008 - 1:55am #

No, no it's not. It's no different from supposed non-racists talking about "uppity nigras" in the dark corners of Southern bars. Don't do it any more.

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 1:57am #

What's the big deal? I'm a dumb Polack so who cares?

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El Caballo de Sangre on 7 Dec 2008 - 2:02am #

If you're an adult, and you think referring to anyone as a "fag" is funny, then odds are you're really a self-hating closet case.

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 2:04am #

Stop taking yourselves so seriously.

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Tom Blogical on 7 Dec 2008 - 2:06am #

I'm with poguemahone and El Cabello de Sangre. There's humor with class and classless humor. Adults know the difference.

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poguemahone on 7 Dec 2008 - 2:09am #

Yeah, it's the internet, and we routinely say stupid things for shiggles, but I draw the line at excessive bigotry in humor. You can make fun of stereotypes and such, and even allege (tongue planted firmly in cheek) that they're somewhat accurate, but the term "fag" is off-putting and offensive to many, straight, gay, and in between.

I'll say no more. We're getting dangerously close to strictly forbidden political territory.

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Anonymous Internet Person on 7 Dec 2008 - 2:28am #

I love my dead gay son.

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Matt on 7 Dec 2008 - 2:36am #

Pogue you're pretty much always offended so it doesn't give us much to go on as a metric for the terribleness of a word. Saying Mizzou doesn't deserve to be #1 offends you. The word fag offends you. I think your mother didn't hold you enough as a baby, and if that offends you, I'm sorry.*

*I'm not really sorry.

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poguemahone on 7 Dec 2008 - 2:39am #

Saying Mizzou didn't deserve to be number one doesn't offend me in the least, the logic behind it did.

And "fag" is offensive to basically everyone but backwater Jethros like you these days, so this doesn't surprise me.

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Pinkle on 7 Dec 2008 - 11:15am #

The dude clearly is messed up. It's OK for him call people names and to tell you to shut the F*** up but the minute somebody starts to have a little fun with the english language he automatically pulls the bigot card. Typical LIB.

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Poe McKnoe on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:20pm #

I prefer 'blatant closet homosexual' when talking about Urban Meyer. He sure is a good football coach though.

Even though he's more Barry Switzer than Lou Holtz (not a good thing).

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Brian on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:23pm #

I just loved all all the announcers automatically put Florida into the National Championship game last night. They kept congratulating them for going. Now, is it a certainty that they will go? Isn't there a chance that Texas will get some love and maybe sneak in there instead? Maybe they were just beating that into the heads of the human polls to put Florida at number 1 or 2 I don't know.

I also love how they kept naming Tebow the Heisman trophy winner. Last year when Florida was awful,it was because he is the best player, this year it's because he's on a championship team. I hate Florida, but I do have to Admit, Tebow seems to be a pretty good kid. However, I don't believe he should get the Heisman, and I don't believe one network's group of announcers should get to sway that vote either. Stricty for the best player, which is what the Heisman used to be, I believe Crabtree, is the most gifted player. But if you look at stats Mc Coy and Bradford are much better.

I realize looking at stats instead of team record, Troy Smith may have lost it to Quinn or Mc Fadden though. It's just amazing to me how much media bias there is for the SEC. There's no doubt those 2 teams were great, but that's all the SEC had this year, of course their fans are probably saying the still get now respect.

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:36pm #

I can't stand Meyer...but he is a good coach. He ran up the score on us two years ago and we will get our chance against him again.

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Brian on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:40pm #

I honestly think Texas in the Fiesta bowl is going to be a scarry match up. If there were ever a team that has a chip on it's shoulder and a lot to prove it's going to be Texas. I'd love a crack at them, but I'm still one who really would love to play Alabama. They looked great yesterday and it's a great team, but I believe this buckeye team will have a different look to them come bowl time. The last few games the Defense got a mean streak in them. I think Pryor is going to be a much better passer, and Beanie will be totally healthy. The offensive line is still awful, but maybe they can be just good enough. Either way, I do not believe they will get killed in a bowl game no matter who the opponent is.

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:43pm #

Brian, good take on both match-ups. I think our O-Line will struggle against either team and the only way to beat them is to run straight at them. In the last two NC games, we tried to be too much like FL and LSU. Play Big Ten football and mix in the pass a bit, stretch the field on occassion, but shove Beanie and Pryor down their throat.

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Kurt on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:54pm #

You know Bama has a rep for being a slow bruising team, ala any Big Ten team, which they are. But even at that they do some really good stuff on offense, for example, they were giving Florida fits with play-action passes, especially on first and third downs. I hope we start to see some stuff like this from the Buckeyes in the bowl game...

Btw Brian, I agree, Texas would probably be a horrible match-up for us. I think they'd destroy us with their offense of McCoy running and throwing...if Juice was enough to give it to us last year, I can't imagine what a QB like McCoy would do to us this year. Give me Bama!

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Poe McKnoe on 7 Dec 2008 - 12:57pm #

Have Ohio State pop in a tape of that Florida-Michigan game last year.

I hate Michigan, but if you want to see a team that had something to prove, it was them. Remember how pathetic they looked against the Buckeyes? Yea, well they came out and demolished Florida (score not representative of how they physically manhandled the Gators up and down the field).

Current Buckeyes, your coach isn't retiring but you have lost the last 2 national championship games. Chip on shoulder.

I think there's enough talent on the roster to do the same thing to Texas, but they have to go all out for 4 quarters. That, in itself, may be the biggest issue for the Buckeyes.

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Cicero Buck on 7 Dec 2008 - 1:08pm #

The rumor on the street is that The Orange Bowl is going to have Ricky Martin and Menudo at halftime to fill the seats.

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Ken on 7 Dec 2008 - 4:02pm #

'Boomer Sooner' is pretty damn obnoxious, but when they're scoring over 60 points per game, I guess it does get played quite a bit.

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poguemahone on 7 Dec 2008 - 6:50pm #

I just got called a "typical liberal". I'm honored, sir.

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Brian on 8 Dec 2008 - 10:11am #

Although yesterday I said I believe the Texas would be a tougher matchup, I don't think they they are going to kill the Bucks, it's just going to be tough. I totally agree that the this team has a lot to prove. Huge expectations, losses in 2 strait championships etc, I know this group wants to go out with a different image then what they've established the last 2 seasons.

I'm really happy to see them back in the BCS though, and I really love a huge matchup. I have said all along, I would much rather play Texas, Bama, Florida, than Utah, BC, Cincinnati or even Georgia outside the BCS.

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