With the bye week, the flow of information coming out of the WHAC has been a bit slower than normal, but Tressel did speak with the press on Thursday afternoon. As you might imagine, much of what he had to say was in response to questions about the offense or lack thereof.
Feeling a little heatOff an early question about the general state of the offense, he said that one of the luxuries of having the bye week was being able to actually study film on yourself and your own tendencies instead of spending the week watching footage of the opponent that weekend. Tressel audited every passing play from both Pryor and Boeckman this season looking at technique, footwork, decision-making and what might have worked better against the coverage. The topic of putting Boeckman into the game came up again and JT pretty much shot it down alluding to the fact that he wasn't sure Pryor could learn watching from the sidelines.
Though he pointed out that most offensive "gurus" he had heard of were selling insurance or doing commentary, his remarks on potential personnel changes or turning over the playcalling were encouraging if you count yourself in the 98% of all Buckeye fans wondering WTF is up with the offense:
"If you're willing to try to decide which players are in the right position, you had certainly better be willing to think about which coaches are in the right position and are you doing the right things. You always do self-critique and so forth -- you always look."
When pressed about possibly giving up playcalling duties, he opened the door to having the finest punt team in the country:
"I would have a hard time not having work to do. If the suggestion would be made that maybe I should find some different work to do, then I think you have to be willing to look in the mirror and say 'Well, maybe I should work more on the punt team since it's so important'."
After being asked again if he could live with someone else making the calls on offense, he offered that there's a little bit of that today:
"I'll give you a good example. We were 3rd and 12 at Michigan State. And you know, 3rd and 12, you want to score a touchdown and all that and I said, 'Bolls what do you want?' He said let's run a -- we call it a certain number -- which is a lead draw and I'm thinking 'A lead draw? If we were playing at home, the tomatoes would be coming out.' He said, 'Yeah, I think they're going to come with such-and-such and I know we'll pick it up,' and boom we run a lead draw. Beanie walks into the end zone and jumps sideways or whatever he did."
So here's another humble suggestion. The offense needs a spark. How about for one game -- the Northwestern game -- Bollman gets to call every play. If the line still underperforms, but the playcalling is diverse enough to create some points and overcome some of that, then we're one step closer to putting our finger on the problem. If it's just as anemic -- or worse -- then we have further proof that some changes are needed at the OC/OL spot.
It's cute that Earle is on record as saying that a coach not calling the plays might as well go behind the bench and smoke cigarettes, and I love Bruce, but frankly, he still thinks it's 1982 outside (and we have it on good authority that he's angry that lineman don't wear foam arm-guards anymore). It's not, but the Buckeye offense still believes it to be.
Other nuggets:
- Tress mentioned the need for better footwork more than once when discussing Pryor's progress, but also pointed out that he reminds him a little bit of Troy Smith when he was younger in the sense that he "doesn't put a lot of balls into harm's way", which is maybe a bit unusual for a young quarterback.
- The Vest said he plans to spend his weekend watching football and mentioned that he sometimes gets a little to into it when watching "his guys". He said when he watches Dantonio's games he feels like he's coaching and wondered aloud at what he was doing up at 11PM the other night watching Mark Snyder's Marshall play.
- The players had Monday off and watched film of the Penn State game on Tuesday. Wednesday and Thursday, the team held regular practice and then today they'll have a short session before getting Saturday off.
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congrats goes out to bollman for getting one play right in a game that we won 45-7. couldnt we trade that for a correct play in a game we are losing by a touchdown in the fourth quarter?
It's called the Beanie Hop, Tressel. Duh.
I listened to the presser, he was pretty much making an excuse for not reviewing the offense enough during the week by saying that he spends so much time every week looking at the current week's opponent on film that he doesn't have time to review his own team's offense on film. I'm sorry but if you don't have time to understand your own offense unless it's a bye week should you really be calling the plays?
I was getting ready to type the same thing, flip. Not reviewing your own offense is not something you should admit to if you're calling the plays.
I'm sending my resume certified mail to the WHAC. LOL
I hope this isn't a smoke and mirrors parlor trick the senator is pulling to get our mind off things. I really hope that he uses this weapon-less Northwestern team as a muse for the offense. We would have to play the worst defensive game of the year (knock on wood) to lose to NU without Bacher and Sutton. So why not throw a few wrinkles in?
It hasn't been said whether Bacher will be out for the OSU game, has it? Last I checked he was listed as probable or questionable for their game this week.
Anyway, I'm not sold on any hope for offensive changes. All that talk during the presser was classic Tressanese, Senator-speak, just throwing us a bone but I doubt he acts on it. He really wants to be a part of the playcalling. I wouldn't rule out replacing Bollman, which would definitely be a start, but I think he feels it is absolutely necessary that he continues to play "eenie meenie mynie mo" with whoever the OC may be.
I dont think Sutton has ever been healthy in the weeks leading up to the OSU game ever. He never seems to be in there...
How spoiled is this fan base when we are #12 in the country with a coach that wins over 80% of the time, takes us to bcs bowl games year in and out, and gives us the chance to win multiple national titles. What did we think was going to happen when we have a freshman quaterback come in and start for this team. Tressel's number one no no is turnovers, so why is everyone complaining about the lack of creative play calling? We all knew he wasn't going to throw him to the wolves his first year. After the USC game this season was shot anyway and from the looks of it he is absolutely focused on making Terrelle better for the future and if that means going back to the offense of 2002. The playcalling is not much different from that season. That season saw Krenzel throw the ball a total of 249 attempts and only completing 148 for 59% comp. rating in all 14 games. Pryor has already in 6 starts has attempted 115 at a 65% clip. The difference now is that simply put this defense is not great. It is good but not great. Lately they have been playing great but the defense and the offensive line have been the reason we haven't performed in the big games. When you have a freshman quarterback and an underachieving offensive line with a defense underperforming what else can you do as a playcaller or coach. There is not a large margin of error so you have to keep things simple. And then when your star tailback goes down, it makes it even more complicated. No one had a problem with tressel the last two years when we averaged over 30 points a game. Everyone relax this is somewhat of a rebuilding year and it is taking time to find out our identity. The future is bright with the young talent we have for next year and the year after, everyone just needs to relax, we can't go to the national championship every year.
Ohio State is too diverse, not insufficiently diverse. They do too many things, and none of them really well. They need to find a formation they can hang their helmets on, and build from there. This team has never done that.
You can call plays from thirty different formations, and sketch out all kinds of pass patterns, but you still have a quarterback who can't read defenses yet, and a line that can't keep the quarterback upright. No amount of playcalling will cure those ills.
millbuck22-
The reason everyone is complaining is that we see a trend. We are beating the teams that we are supposed to, but losing the games the games we are not favored in. That's the problem. It's alarming that people are fine with what's happening. I understand that growing pains are expected with a freshman QB. However, there are work-arounds to this. Screens, awknowledging that TE's do exist, slants are all plays most offenses employ with a young QB. They are low-risk plays that TP should be able to handle. I don't think it's a TP issue. OSU has NEVER run an offense that utilized these strategies and it is KILLING us.
I heard Krenzel talking about the offense on the radio. It is strictly geared around ball management and winning the field position battle. That bullshit isn't going to work going forward as more and more teams go to a high-powered offense. Tressel isn't prepared to run an offense that scores points.
Millbuck, we have been saying the future is bright for many years. Heck I would take a crappy offense as long as the Bucks would put up a fight in big games like they did against PSU. Something has to change or 41-14, 38-24, and 35-3 are just the beginning of the national embarassments...
And that hat-rack formation should be the "Buckeye Pistol"
Its such a great formation. With Beanie, TP, and either Saine/Boom in the backfield at the same time, the options are limitless. You can run, throw, option, reverse bootleg, PA pass to the up back in the flats...just sooooo many things. Maybe I just dominate the College Football PS3 game and think I'm an offensive genius but c'mon that formation killed whenever it was used.
Agree with Millbuck 100 percent - have we as a fan base really lost that much perspective?
All but the most homer of Bucks fans by now realize the expectations for this season were way out of whack, based primarily on cakewalking through last year's schedule to the NCG.
When we were again spanked on the national stage this year, give Tress credit for taking action and accelerating the development of our younger players.
So here we are, starting a true freshman qb behind an underachieving line and of course there are going to be inconsistencies on offense. All this semi-panic about the offense is a bit over the top, IMO.
How many of you would rather TP be tackling this learning curve next season? I know I wouldn't, but in the meantime, they're still 5-1 since he took over, and the way the PSU DEs were blowing by Browning and Co., I have a hard time believing Statue Todd would have made much of a positive difference in the loss.
I think the offense will be fine, at least until our o-line faces another BCS game-caliber d-line.
We don't get bonus points for "no turnovers" do we? It seems to me that the only thing that matters is us getting into the endzone.
If TP throws 3 interceptions a game, but also loosens up the offense and scores 6 times, what is the only important statistic here?
Obviously I am not saying that interceptions don't matter, but we can't get all fixated on completion percentages and interceptions, when scoring is really what matters. I will take a 49% completion, 3 interception QB anyday, if that coincides with a high-risk, high-score offense.
To paraphrase Lombardi "scoring isn't an important thing, it is the ONLY thing..."
"To paraphrase Lombardi 'scoring isn’t an important thing, it is the ONLY thing…'"
That is not a paraphrase, it is a misquote. Scoring does not equal winning! And it is certainly not the only thing.
Millbuck - What exactly is Tressel doing to "make Terrelle better for the future"? He throws about 10 passes a game. Most of those passes are WR screens that don't even cross the line of scrimmage. He doesn't trust him enough to throw downfield or make any sort of difficult throws. Most people see the fact that he's only thrown 2 interceptions and think that's great. I think it's unacceptable. If he was really being challenged interceptions would come; they're just part of the game.
Also, by running constantly on 1st and 2nd downs, they're constantly putting him in 3rd and 7, 3rd and 8 situations. Now guys are blitzing, coverage is dead set on pass. How is that helping out a very green QB?
I'm the only one on here that prays to Beelzebub on Halloween? Wouldn't have guessed that...
There will be no changes in our offense unless we are struggling to score touchdowns when Pryor is a junior.
I'm dressing like a ghost tonight, aka the Buckeye offensive line!
Our O-Line only play like ghosts, they dont look like them. You can miss a ghost, but there is NO WAY you could miss any of our fatty lineman. They push the "all you can eat" line to the limit.
Going to party it up in Athens tonight! I'm dressing up as a matador!
OLE!!!!!!
we are ranked #12 in the country....yet we haven't scored an offensive TD in a 1/3 of our games. sounds to me like we are trading on the name more than playing great football. sounds vaguely familiar. gosh, where have i seen/heard of this trading on the name....oh yeah, scUM and the golden domers. if you haven't noticed...they have kind of done a nose-dive recently.
I think that what would be good for a lot of Buckeye fans would be to start watching other teams more closely.
Who do you want to be like?
USC? You would hate how Pete always blows an easy game or two.
Texas? Until this year you would say that Mack can't win the big one without Vince.
Oklahoma? Can't compete in the BCS, just like us.
Florida? Sure, they won in 06, but last year was mediocre.
Alabama? You have a short memory, they have been lousy for about ten years.
LSU? They have given up 50 twice this year, has JT ever done that?
Georgia? No BCS title appearances ever. Until last year, couldn't beat Florida.
And of course, there is the wreckage of FSU, Miami, Tennessee, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Auburn, Clemson, etc., etc.
If you are unhappy with JT and his staff, based on occasional offensive problems, then you would never be happy. Every team has bad games. Sure, there are a handful of teams (with very good, experienced QB's) that have been scoring 63 points on occasion. Sure, I'd trade offenses with them, if it were offered.
But when a coaching staff has accomplished 5 top 5 final rankings in 7 years, along with 6 wins over Michigan, along with 1 NC, 3 NC game appearances, and 4 bowl victories . . .
It seems that maybe they have a better sense of how to coach football than I do. And maybe they can fix it just as well without our input.
One more thing, for JC.
What ND and UM have in common is that they both suffered considerably from coaching changes. Since we have a winner with JT, it seems like you are providing an argument for staying the course.
"It’s cute that Earle is on record as saying that a coach not calling the plays might as well go behind the bench and smoke cigarettes, and I love Bruce, but frankly, he still thinks it’s 1982 outside (and we have it on good authority that he’s angry that lineman don’t wear foam arm-guards anymore). It’s not, but the Buckeye offense still believes it to be."
'Cute" or not, Tressel obviously agrees with Bruce that he may as well go behind the bench and smoke cigarettes if he can't call the plays. Anything else Bruce thinks is irrelevant, because the important topic is Tressel will never give up play calling while Head Coach at OSU or anywhere else.
"So here’s another humble suggestion. The offense needs a spark. How about for one game — the Northwestern game — Bollman gets to call every play."
Dude. Give it up. There is a ZERO chance of that happening. The best we can hope for is a replacement for Bollman at both the Offensive Line and Offensive Coordinator positions. You can call any play you want, you can have the best Offensive Coordinator on the planet draw up a game plan and call all the plays...but if the O-line doesn't execute the plays are going nowhere.
If you don't like Tressel calling the plays, and you want a change, then you may as well start your firetressel.com site now.
I have not lost any perspective ...unlike millibuck I will never be happy with not being able to stay within 3 TDS of college football's best programs. call me crazy, but I would rather have a lower winning percenta if it meant we could at least play and beat the nation's best teams; or, when we lose, maybe at least not be beat down like a little girl.
I think those that have lost perspective are those that haven't realized a change in college football. the big ten is no longer a power conference, period. the teams winning percentage under tressel is so obviously a product of a shitty conference rather than a good coaching job .... that becomes painfully clear whenever we dip our toe out of the conference to play good teams: we get throttled
Good post Georgia, thanks for helping keep things in perspective. I'm as frustrated as anyone else, and think Bollman has done his job as best he could but it is time to move on.
With that said, I think people are expecting Tressel to clean out the coaching cupboard, wave a magic wand, and everything will be fixed and this team will become an undefeated dynasty machine. Reality is, as schools like scUM, ND, Miami, ND, etc. have learned, when coaching changes occur things tend to get a lot worse before they get better. Auburn fires their OC every other year, how has that worked out for them?..........
^^^^Agree COMPLETELY.
Err... my previous post was meant for ultrabuckeyehomer's comment.
"Good post Georgia, thanks for helping keep things in perspective. I’m as frustrated as anyone else, and think Bollman has done his job as best he could but it is time to move on."
OK, we agree on this. So far so good.
"With that said, I think people are expecting Tressel to clean out the coaching cupboard, wave a magic wand, and everything will be fixed and this team will become an undefeated dynasty machine. Reality is, as schools like scUM, ND, Miami, ND, etc. have learned, when coaching changes occur things tend to get a lot worse before they get better. Auburn fires their OC every other year, how has that worked out for them?………."
Wha----? With all due respect, replacing one coach or even two is not "cleaning out the cupboard". Now, who exactly besides you is claiming Tressel will "wave a magic wand, and everything will be fixed and this team will become an undefeated dynasty machine"? Of course it's going to take time for coaching changes to make a positive effect on a program. I don't think anyone here is making that claim.
Thanks Tom. I love your posts because I get to re-read everything I've read already once before.
I will concede that no one has literally written that Tressel should "clean out the cupboard" or "will wave a magic wand and fix everything", so if anyone took those written words literally, I sincerely apologize.
What I implied, obviously very poorly, is that in the past weeks we have been calling for changes in the coaching staff to get this team to where we thought it would or should be. I've heard suggestions to fire OC/OL coach Bollman (which I agree with), fire DC/DL coach Heacock (not oppossed to), get new Strength and Conditioning coach, etc. Perhaps not "cleaning out the cupboard" but dramatic changes to a football team.
The point to all of this is that we are calling for changes in the hopes that it will fix whatever needs to be fixed. I was simply stating that, looking at recent history, unless we get lucky with a good fit it may cause more harm than good.
Again, apologies to all who may have misunderstood. I understand there is no "magic wand" solution.....
"Thanks Tom. I love your posts because I get to re-read everything I’ve read already once before."
Good, good. Glad to hear it. As you admit, you implied very poorly, so perhaps you should have read your comment more than once or twice. I believe everything everyone writes is important enough to read twice. Maybe even three times. And more importantly, it shows exactly what I'm agreeing or disagreeing with, as I could agree with one thing in your comment, but not another. This is a common technique used on many other blogs, BTW.
"The point to all of this is that we are calling for changes in the hopes that it will fix whatever needs to be fixed. I was simply stating that, looking at recent history, unless we get lucky with a good fit it may cause more harm than good."
Duly noted. Keep in mind however, that it can't really get much worse, but it can get a whole lot better. As organized, thorough and cautious as Tressel is, I don't think he'd hire someone who'd cause a disaster, IMHO.
Oh, one more thing Tyler. I think Heacock has saved his job, and I think the Strength and Conditioning coach should be put on watch for now until next season, depending on the physical condition of the O-line.
Now then...are there any other Captain Obvious statements you'd like to make? ;-)
I like it when Tom quotes. I would do it too if there were a quote feature on here like they have on forums. I'm lazy to do the HTML tags. Just makes things easier to read in a discussion.
Look at the bright side, at least we've put a stop to other teams raiding our staff to fill their head coaching jobs.
Seriously, I think the biggest reason for the big-game problems we've had the last two years is that Boeckman and the offensive line turned out to not be as good as we thought. Perhaps we could say the same about our receivers. Who on this forum believes that any of the aforementioned will be up for first-team All Big Ten honors? Yeah, me neither.
Millibuck go back to buckeye planet where if you say anything negetive about a coach or player you get banned for 14 days lol You guys are a joke and went to school back in the 9-3 days of bruce. Ohio State is going to the next level or trying to get there. That said if you don't question what your doing when what your doing isn't working then your an idiot. There is no reason this team doesn't score points. Yes Tp is a freshman QB but he is also the most highly hyped recruit since Mo C and ohio state got the most out of him when healthy. There is no way you can get on here and tell me our coaching staff is getting the most or even an avg. performance out of this team. The bottome line is this has been a total lack of creativity on the offensive side of the ball, and up till the last two games the defense played very conservative. Let TP throw the ball down field and I know this offense will start to score.
Buckeyeski said "I dont think Sutton has ever been healthy in the weeks leading up to the OSU game ever. He never seems to be in there…"
2004, my friend. 2004.
Tampa Buck: Please forgive me and I truly mean no disrespect but please start rooting for some other team. You bring me down, dude. It isn't thag bad.
Tampa Buckeyes, terrelle pryor just threw the ball downfield during the penn state game 26 times, but the fact of the matter is that the o line under performing allowed us no chance to mix up the game and provide any type of running game to throw at penn state. this is why the offense is struggling because of the offensive line. i also don't understand why people got so upset about the penn state game when it was clearly a defensive battle.. not a lack in creativity of play calling... do you think penn state fans are unhappy with the 32 points under their average that they score... i dont think so
Jim, Sutton wasn't on the team in 2004. That was Noah Herron. I feel like Buckeyeski is right, and I think it's a damn shame he's out again this year. Regardless of our own condition, it's always best to play other teams at their best, even this year, it doesn't inherently mean we're going to struggle or lose: look at MSU and Ringer. I wish Bacher and Sutton were healthy.
i'll have the balls to speak the truth about OSU's program that alot of you won't.Tressel needs fired. bottomline. don't give me your "wins 80% of his games, good guy,blahblah,weeping and gnashing of teeth" a head coach's number one priority is to have his team prepared.thats it nothing else. now, has tressel had his team prepared vs. PSU 08? most would say yes b/c they played them tough but i say donkeyballs and heres why: usc08, lsu07,ill07,uf06,psu05,ut05...i could go on but lets face facts here those are 7 losses in 3 years against 6 great teams,ill07 was not great just good.in everyone of those years tressel had the firepower to play w/and emerge w/a victory and he did not. he hasn't beaten a GREAT team since miami and i seriously doubt he ever will. can he beat average to good teams? wash07 trash,texas 06 garbage, notre dame 05 horribly overrated, oklahoma state? get serious clowns,kansas state?wow. now reread everything ive typed and tell me what part i've made up? dantonio was the only reason tressel won a national championship. why should buckeye nation WANT a coach who has a 1-7 record vs. great teams? oh he can beat michigan you say? thats baller but i guess i'm being cynical when i want a coach who can beat michigan consistently AND ANY OTHER MOTHERPUCKING TEAM WE PLAY FOR THAT MATTER. does he have the athletes? check. facilities? check. funding? check. loyal fan base? w/out a doubt but for too long i say. resources? check. tressel is not doing his job. boone is a fat overrated turd, person and rehring? horrible. oh wait thats already been said? when was that said i ask? TWO YEARS AGO???? after the uf game?? you're telling me that everybody and their mother knew our o-line was porous two years ago and nothing has been done about it?? does that sound like a coach who does his best to prepare his team?
i played receiver in college (not d1 read my name i'm a realist) and it is absolutely mind boggling that robiskie and hartline or small never get their asses chewed out when they suck, which is often. tressel has no spine and as we all know arnold doesn't put up w/that. now if arnold wouldn't put up w/that why should we?
I made captain? To quote the cooler, alternate version of Dave Mcfly in Back to the Future: "When the hell did this happen"?
Blogical: I must admit I'm actually a fan of the quotes also, I was just pissed off at work yesterday and that was the quickest jab at you I could take. Apologies.
Realist: I'll have the balls to say that ANYONE who thinks Tressel should be fired is a bonafide fucking idiot. At what point to do you realize that your expectations are, ironically, UN realistic? Give me ANY coach you would rather have than Tressel and I can immediately give you 3 reasons why you would bitch if they were coaching the Buckeyes.
As much of a dissappointment this year has been, I will take annual double digit wins over what is going on in Ann Arbor every day for the rest of my life.
I wish I had a Delorean and could go 88 mph back five years and prevent the recruitment of bryant browning, steve rehring and the other tubs of goo on the o-line. Great scot!
If you strapped a Flux Capacitor to Lamarr Thomas I'm sure you would see some serious shit...
Tyler: I echo that. Who does realist want to coach the team? Granted JT is in a big game slump but he is still having one of the most successful runs of any OSU coach.
Meyer? Carrol? Saban? Miles? Weis?(ok, the last two were a joke) Who?
tyler and jim i'm glad you two rebuttaled i was hoping to be engaged and combative discussion....you both made it easy for me....
tyler- a few things:it is unrealistic to expect any program to never lose a game which is what every fan wants. BUT which coaches in the country do you think have their programs in the closest possible position to do that? tressels name would not be on that list.who would you ask?(and this answers your question about whom would i rather have coaching then tressel) carroll-might be a clown but hes a better motivator,recruiter,and strategist as evidenced by THE 35-3 ASSWHOOPING HE PUT ON TRESSEL. meyer-might not be the classiest but he has the mean streak ala SPINE to put his team in a position to be a force in the hands down toughest conference in the country and hes more innovative then tressel as evidenced by THE 41-14 ASSWHOOPING HE PUT ON TRESSEL... do you see a recurring theme here?? do you want me to keep going? ok. dickrod-MARK THIS DOWN DUFFS in a few years when he gets the right players for his system he will put it on the bucks and tressel.yeah hes a horses ass but he puts his players in a position to make plays,sound like tressel? no..and thats the point.who else would i rather have coaching then tressel?? thats too easy. you can give me 3 reasons i would bitch if they were coaching??????? i can give you 50 reasons WHY PEOPLE ARE BITCHING ABOUT TRESSEL. checkmate,thanks for playing bring the funk next time durden.
jim ah jim, how easy to clown thee and i quote:"Granted JT is in a big game slump..." a slump really?? did you not read what i wrote? he has not beaten a great team since 200 and *ucking TWO.read that as many times as you have to for it to sink in....its not a slump when you are 1-7 against great teams its a pattern and i just got extremely bored b/c you two did not present a challenge please try harder.
give me 3 reasons tressel should stay the coach and i'll shred your argument.
-here's the kicker, i'm bigger buckeye fan then anybody and i've met tressel a few times and spoken w/him knew him at ysu before he was known nation wide but he should not be the coach of the bucks anymore,i'm not hating on him i'm calling him out for not being a successful coach, before you whine about that statement i dont care if he beats purdue he should or msu, show me something when the lights are on...which he cannot do
Realist- What school did you go to? It appears you took quite a beating on the football field. That or you never attended English Comp. Your punctuation and grammer are atrocious.
The idea that Tressel should be fired is just plan stupid.
You obviously never attended history class either. That Kansas State team in 2003 was really good. Have you forgotten that 35-7 beat down they put on Oklahoma in the Big XII Championship game. They had three loses, but they came without their starting QB. That OU team had been been crowned by the local media as the best OU team of all time.
It is apparent that you are only trying to stir the pot. I hate to quote you but, "tyler and jim i’m glad you two rebuttaled[sic] i was hoping to be engaged and combative discussion….you both made it easy for me"
We are not here to have an internet war. Nobody wants "combative discussion." Go away and come back when you grow up.
Oh and by the way Realist,you are not the biggest Buckeye fan as you claim. My friend from the Air Force, who is now stationed in Spain lays claim to that title.
on second thought, re read tressels comments in the above article. tressels quotes don't sit wrong w/anybody else????????/ the head coach has to be head accountable for the product he puts on the field. when is a reporter going to ask him this question: "why has your team sucked so much against really good teams?" and then after he gives his typical tressel speak answer the reporter HAS to follow up w/: "thats nice but you didnt answer the question, why have you,your staff, and your players CONSISTENTLY sucked against equal talent?
robb i went washington & jefferson in pa, its d3 only beating i ever took was at the hands of mary-hardin baylor from texas in the 3rd round of the playoffs, i was an english major, i know more about grammar then your mother but ITS THE INTERNET WHO GIVES A KRAP ABOUT THEIR GRAMMAR AND PUNKSHEEATION???? no onto your amazing insight, tressel should be fired, i honestly cannot believe you think kstate was good, ell roberson??? are you serious clark? and you think people are going to respect your (or is it you're??) opinion? and who in the local media claimed that okla team was the best of all time?? thats absurd, the local media needs to do significantly more research or wait are you the "local media"'? how could a team who lost to kstate be chosen as the best okla teamever? im not stirring the pot, tressel needs fired i speak the truth i am a realist you are typing off your emotion step away from your anger and type objectively about the osu state of affairs...
Realist listen he has beat a real team since 02' Texas at tx and Michigan both in 06' both ranked #2 in the nation. That being said we just need to make a few adjustments and this offense will be rolling. Those are as follows:
1. Get the ball to the tight end.
2. Throw when the defense stuffs the box with 8 or 9. Does not matter what the down or distance.
3. Formations are giving away our plays. We always run out of two back formations. Play action with two backs will work.
The future is very bright for this team. The defense is coming around and if the offense gets it together before the bowl we will be tough to beat. You will see a huge improvement from Pryor in the next 3 weeks. I believe tressel will open the play book and allow him more freedom to throw the ball down field. You have to be excited about the defense and the amount of talent we have coming back next year. GO Bucks!
I think the main thing in regard to why Ohio State is so disappointing to its fans despite posting a great record over the last 3 years is. #1. The number of games played against other teams inside Ohio. The ONLY Ohio team OSU should ever play is Cincinnati. MAC teams and I-aa teams need to come off the schedule completely. If a MAC team makes it to a BCS game, then OSU should maybe consider scheduling it in the future, not before. Last year OSU played 3 teams that would not be considered for the MNC even if they went undefeated. Playing Akron, Kent State and Youngstown State in the same year is a complete joke and is hurting the program. OSU has won 30 games in the last 3 seasons, which is great, but 8 of them, over 25% have been against non BCS teams. This is part of the reason the whole Big 10 is down. I was talking to a blowhard Nebraska fan, and he was saying that six Big 12 teams could beat OSU this year. When you take a look at it, he is probably right about five. If OSU would play any of the following teams they would probably be at least a 5 point underdog. Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Missouri. That being said, I'm not ready to call for Tressel's head, but something needs to change. Playing inferior competition in the non con season doesn't seem to be working out.
Look there is no way 6 big 12 teams could beat Ohio state your fucking stupid for saying that. This team is fine. The offense needs some work. Tell me the last time a team with a Freshmen Qb has won the national title?
Tech might have a shot vs Ohio State but who has Tech beat outside the Big 12?
Oklahoma would have a shot.
Texas is basically the same team we crushed in 06' except they don't have nearly as good a defense as they did in 06', But they would have a shot.
So that is three teams that could beat Ohio State. Not 6! not even 5! You people make me fucking sick.
Also look at who the last 5 national champions have played out of conference then you tell me if we shouldn't play one or two in-state teams. Bottom line is your the same bandwagon type of fan that pisses me off. Instead of defending your school you agree with some douche bag Cornhusker fan. You can turn in your buckeye necklace you Block O flag and go root for some other team. You are the same guy that sits the whole game and when someone stands up at the game you ask them to sit down.
DOWN IN FRONT!
Wow.
A fan can't analyze his favorite team without getting shouted down? For the record, I went to the USC game and despite OSU only scoring 3 points, I screamed loud enough and long enough to lose my voice. Hell before the game I was convinced OSU not only could win, but SHOULD win. I thought, and actually still think that if there were 5 quarters in a game OSU would have beaten LSU in last year's title game.
After watching the game and the games that have followed, I don't think this year's team is one of the nation's elite teams, at least not as it is now being coached offensively. The offensive line is just not good enough.
Elite teams don't have their offense shut out of the end zone once every three games.
I did not even agree with the Nebraska fan, when he was talking to me, just looking at it objectively he is probably right this year, at least among 4 or 5 of those teams. The way the Buckeyes handle the spread doesn't make me optimistic about playing Mizzou, OK State or Texas Tech.
If OSU were to play one of those teams and I was at the game I would yell scream and do whatever I could to help OSU win, and would be disappointed and pissed if they lost.
I have been told to sit down at games and it pisses me off. I have been told I cheered too loudly and too often after a game at St. John Arena. I have lived and died with OSU football for more years than I like to admit. When I lived in Columbus I went to every game from 1979 to 1999 except the Arizona game in 1997. I live 700 miles from Columbus and still go to at least two games a year. I remember the 1969 Michigan game. I still want to kick my TV when I watch replays of the 1974 and 1975 Rose bowls. I was despondent after the '96 UM loss. I was devastated after the Florida game. I don't root for OSU to lose just to confirm that my analysis of the team was right!! I will keep my block O flag thank you very much!
"Blogical: I must admit I’m actually a fan of the quotes also, I was just pissed off at work yesterday and that was the quickest jab at you I could take. Apologies."
No problem. I was hoping you caught the wink emoticon in my second comment so you knew I wasn't ticked off or anything. I was somewhat snarky first, and poured it on later...I'm a big boy, if I can dish it out, I can take it! :-)
I find it amazing that anyone would want to fire a coach who wins 80% of their games and has guided their team to a National Title game 37.5% of the time. There isn't another head coach in the nation who's done that in 8 years, so just who would people like that be happy with?
Nobody is happy with the offensive production, but man, I think some common sense should be applied at some point. I'm comforted with the fact that there was a small percentage of the fanbase that didn't like Woody either, so I'm confident the "Fire Tressel" crowd is a small percentage also.
GO BUCKS!
Realist: No question Meyer and Carroll are quality coaches but how do you think losing to lower tier B10 conference schools(akin toFlorida losing to Ole Miss and USC losing to the other OSU) would sit with the Buckeye faithful? At least Tressel loses bid games, those guys lose small games.
You're are the clown...thanks for playing. Maybe you should try harder.
i find it amazing that im the only one with the backbone to speak what everybody has felt at one time or another in the past 2+ years...remember how you felt when justin zwick fumbled the ball vs.texas 05 and then troy smith came in and got annihalated when tressel put him in inside our own 10, remember how you felt vs. psu05 when derrick williams ran past hawk into the endzone and psu beat the crap out of us physically, remember how you felt when florida BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF OUR BELOVED BUCKS and how you never wanted to feel like that again?when tory smith was getting sacked by a helmetless defender? howd you feel when we couldnt stop juice THE ENTIRE 4TH QUARTER? howd y'all feel when ali highsmith almost separated todd boeckmans'(i almost puked just typing that name now) shoulder decapitated his head? howd you feel when hester scored? when the tight end was uncovered? howd you feel watching person get truck sticked as jean-francois blocked that kick? howd you feel watching maulagua crib boeckmans bad out pass? watching our offense put up 3 points in a game that every buckeye fan knew was the only way we would win back a little national respect? howd you feel nkowing that tressel and the bucks had let us down again? how angry were you? how did you feel when the bucks miraculously found themselves in the position to win another national respect game and lose yet again vs psu this year? was i the only one during those games being tormented by another PISS FUCKING POOR EFFORT? i was? i'm glad you guys can take solace in beating kstate(b/c they're bona fide), oklahoma state, washington,shitty notre dame, OHIO UNIVERSITY THIS YEAR YOU JAGOFFS. i for one refuse to settle for that shit, why would you who call yourselves fans demand anything less then excellence.
-now think back to how you all felt when dorseys pass fell incomplete...
b/c you won't feel that ever again until tressel is fired or he makes some MAJOR CHANGES, which as we all know will not happen b/c he is conservative and a good guy and he makes all of you guys feel warm inside, i'm happy for you guys b/c little things will always make you happy but not me, i want ohio state to stop breaking my heart, they did it too many times in the 90's and guess what? it happened again this decade, same unbelievable talent, same underachieving results....
but hey we can beat michigan so lets go to the bar and take a half piss half crown royal shot while we're at it shall we?
you mean losing to lower b10 teams like northwestern? b/c tressel does that too jimbo, tressel does that too
tampa buckeye, texas at texas was not a great team, maybe a good one but read what i wrote, and you're joking about that michigan 06 team right? you mean the team that got stepped on by usc? those teams were great??? no they were good which is what i said... are tampa area folk as annoyed by your irritativeness too?
That 3rd and 12 call against michigan state was a bad play call. Luckily, chris wells is a beast and was able to stiff arm the michigan state LB.
Carrol loses to a team he should lose to practically EVERY year Tombo.
As an english major can conjure up any words to get your point across without having to rely on so many expletives? Are you that angry dude?
There should be a sign: Don't feed the Trolls
Ignore Realist and hopefully he will go away.
yeah dude i am that foocking angry that the bucks keep sucking vs great teams, im sorry yinzers settle to live in the land of douschebaggery where losing is a way of life. carroll meticulously destroyed tressel in every way w/their chess pieces and your talking carroll down?
robbo i'm not going anywhere homey
Dude, give it up. You are the miniority here. If you want Tressel gone so bad write Mean Gene Smith a letter. Maybe you can start a petition, although yours will probably be the only name on it. Then again, once Mean Gene discovers how big of balls you have I'm sure he will fire Tressel on the spot.
i thought the comments section was a place for discussion?? ive voiced my opinion strongly and nobody offers anything substantial in rebuttal...?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ok all you manginas what do you think tressel should do to fix osu in big games??
-oh thats right you have all exhausted yourselves over the same old mistakes, same miscues...bad oline play,penalties, LACK OF A BADASS ON DEFENSE, lack of any successful creativity on offense, mental errors, PLAYING W/ PASSION?
we heard that after florida, hell when haven't we heard that? and when are you guys going to get off tressels dick and ask why HE'S not being held more accountable?
Why is Ohio State paying Jim Tressel some $3 million to coach the Buckeyes, when they could be paying Tom Realist to coach them instead? Buffoons.
Realist- At least be original with your screen name.
Your obvious attept to mock Tom Blogical with your name "Tom Realist" is neither original nor is is funny. Blogical is one of the most respected guys in here. Even though I do not agree with him 100%, I respect his insight.
Now until you can write something intelligent, go away.
Tombo: This a place for discussion but you seem particularly angry that not everyone agrees with you. I respect your opinion even if I do not agree. I do not respect your style. Based upon your comments you don't respect anyone's opinion but your own.
I'm not talking down Carrol but you can't dismiss the fact that he loses games he should win on an annual basis. Yes, JT does lose to Northwestern every once in a while but not on such a regular basis.
Who would you rather see a the helm of the Buckeyes? Please just answer the question versus ripping my point of view apart.
Thanks Robb. You guys may find this hard to believe, but I do worry about whether I'm too pushy with my opinions or not. I don't want to come off as being disrespectful, so please let me know when or if I cross the line.
No worries TB. Anyone that is a regular on here knows that your heart is in the right place.
wow- you guys are a bunch of pansies.you sound like women.robb do you honestly think im concerned over respect on the www? its not a real place, jimbo read my above posts i gave you 3 choices all would be better than tressel, blogical i actually didnt see your name before i made mine i just picked tom for the hell of it, perhaps i should have gone with jerry...and jimbo did you really type that blogicals' heart is in the right place? are you serious clark? its the www none of this is real fellas its just opinion.
-how about this instead of telling me to go away tell me what part of my above rantings are not accurate? b/c nobody has yet and if they do i'll continue to show you how we need a new captain of the Buckeye ship.
my bad that was me on anonymous
Things I learned in this convo:
- You're not cool unless your name ends with "bo".
- The Internet is not real.
oh no its real, cant you see and touch the annoyance level w/ which i am affecting the tards?
I've been an Ohio State fan as long as I can remember. Having said that, I believe it would be foolish to make a scapegoat of Coach Tressel. Granted, OSU has lost 6 straight non-conference high profile games on nat'l TV, including 2 NCs. However, how many schools can claim a NC in the last decade as OSU can? So what if the majority of players on the 2002 team were not his recruits. You win with the talent at hand and JT must have pushed the right buttons at the time. Furthermore, what does it say about tOSU as a academic institution which some have claimed is simply a glorified "football factory" and whose student-athlete graduation rate is somewhere below 75% ? Do we cave in to the boosters and re-inforce that mantra even more? I say with a resounding NO that OSU is in good hands w/Tressel but he DOES need to defer the offensive play calling to a coordinator. He's too close to the "vest."