Anyone seen my little go-cart? (Photo: OSU)Before jumping into Tressel's weekly presser notes I have to get something off my chest...
Am I the only one who thinks colleges look stupid when they plan lame events like white outs, black outs and now, Scarlet Fever? Seriously, I was hoping OSU was cool enough to not participate in such hoopty-ness but I stand corrected.
Places like OSU and Penn State don't need to organize these ridiculous things and they do absolutely nothing to impact the opposing team. Ensuring students are close to the field, having everyone stand up and raise hell when the opponent has the ball (not punishing them because Ma and Pa Kettle can't see) are how you create a home field advantage.
I wasn't even going to bring this up until I laid eyes on Tressel doing his best Shriner Jim impression in support of said Scarlet Fever and going so far as to remind everyone to bring scarlet ponchos in case it rains and they need to cover their scarlet sweatshirts. Enough. Seriously.
On to the presser...
Putting a bow on the destruction of Sparty, Tress appropriately propped Small for his work on punt returns (minus the near lost fumble) and noted six players on each side of the ball recorded winning grades.
The weekly Player of the Game awards went to Spitler (special teams - saved Small's fumble), Animal, Beanie, Boone (Jim Parker) and Homan (Attack Force).
Tressel made sure to comment on not only Beanie's running but especially his blitz pickup on the Pryor to Hartline 56 yarder. That block was huge. The senator in me wonders if Tress didn't make special mention of that just to give Beanie some love after his back-handed comment about Beanie voicing his concerns over play calling to the media after the Purdue debacle.
Shifting gears to Penn State, Tress discussed Daryll Clark's impact on the offense with his ability to both run and throw and how he had designs on Clark out of high school but academic issues got in the way:
someone asked me on the Big Ten call just a few minutes ago what do I see as the difference between their team from this year and their team from a year ago and I think the fact that Daryll Clark has taken over as quarterback, he adds that dimension of excellent passing like the Penn State quarterbacks always do, but he gives you that run dimension like Michael Robinson did for them a few years ago. I think he gives an excellent leadership dimension. He's a guy that he's put his work in and he's waited for his opportunity and he's made the best of his opportunity and you could see that in the second half of their bowl game. I think they were behind in their bowl game and he took over and got them a victory in their bowl game and I think that began their momentum and he's got a lot of weapons with him, veteran wide receivers who seem like they've been starting for four years.
And on his recruitment:
REPORTER: How much did you look at Clark when he was in high school? COACH TRESSEL: Oh, yeah, we knew Daryll real well. REPORTER: He had some challenges academically. COACH TRESSEL: Well, he was a good football player. Look at him a lot more right now than I looked at him that I can remember five years ago. I think he's a success story. He's a guy that was patient and committed and here he is leading an undefeated football team. To me, that's a great story.
The Vest also spent a good deal of time talking about Penn State's dangerous return game with fast cats like Derrick Williams planning to give me three and half hours of heart palpitations Saturday night:
Their kickoff return is ranked number one in the Big Ten and Number two in the country. Their return men, obviously, are scary. Williams has two kickoff return touchdowns, he has a punt return touchdown. Great acceleration. He's an up-the-field guy. He's not a guy that's going to run around you, while he could, though, with his speed, he puts his foot in the ground and he goes north and he's very, very dangerous.
Slowing Williams on returns is gonna be key. Luckily, I feel much better about the OSU kick coverage this year thanks mostly to guys like Sabino, Lane and Rolle. Those three seem to be on every tackle. I'm too lazy to look for the stat proof but it definitely feels like this year's kick coverage units are superior to last years.
Moving to the offense, I thought Tressel's comments about the game plan, specifically simplifying it with a focus on improving the o-line play were interesting. Of course, he was right to point it out how Beanie and Pryor can make any line look good (especially when they're staging a stiff arm contest on helpless defenders):
I thought our guys did a good job of understanding what they were going to come at us with, their preparation, learning it. I thought the coaches did a good job of perhaps scaling down conceptually what we were trying to do. And then we got out there and they were doing what we thought they'd do and we were executing a little bit more in sync with 11 guys at a time. I think you get a little bit of confidence, and it doesn't hurt when Beanie breaks a couple tackles and those kinds of things or Terrelle runs around a guy who's -- you know, Michigan State had the right defense on and they had a guy assigned to him, but Terrelle was faster than the guy assigned to him. You know, that helps too.
Tress also discussed how the coaches prep for an opponent and during film steady they see all these plays other teams ran that worked against that week's opponent and how it's difficult to not try and jam all those ideas into the game plan. He's got a pretty good rule to make sure it doesn't get out of hand:
Sometimes you get excited about these big games and you want to have 90 different -- oh, man I saw this, Illinois did this and Wisconsin did that and Purdue did this and Coastal Carolina, they had this one little -- all of a sudden you're there. We always say anything we put on the board past 10:00 at night probably won't work. And we were there past 10:00 last night, so we had to erase anything we put on there past 10:00. We have to have the right amount and I think that's key.How much would you love to be able to attend those game planning sessions to see what it's really like?
Quickly jumping back to Small on returns, I loved how Tress defended Small's decisions to catch the ball and accurately pointed out how just because you have a rule not to catch the ball inside the 10, it's difficult to know exactly where you are when the punter gets off a booming punt that backs up the return man. Just as important, he notes how sometimes those boomers are highly returnable because the coverage is outkicked:
The hard ones are when you're up on the 18 or the 20 and the guy hits it over your head and the last thing you have time to do is look down and see what yard line you're on. Sometimes we put into effect that seven yard line rule that you just invented or the five-yard line rule or whatever, but that's hard. But when a guy kicks it over your head, if you're at 42, 43, wherever we have them, if a guy kicks it over your head and you happen to catch it on the seven, chances are there's a little separation because he's kicked it so far, but 10 yard line is the rule, but go back there and try to catch a punt and look down.Apparently not understanding the obvious, the reporter went back for more asking if he addressed Small for catching (then fumbling) the punt at the 7 yard line:
No, because again, that's a no-win situation. Oh, Coach, now you want me to look down while I'm looking up? So, no, it wasn't addressed by me. I hope it wasn't addressed because it's not a bad decision. It's not like he caught it three yards deep. I hope he could understand if he went from 18 back to five yards deep, he could tell that he's gone a ways, but from the 18 to the 10, 18 to the eight, how do you know the difference when the ball is hanging up there, so I thought he did good job. If he'd have hanged on to the ball he'd be special teams player of the week because he did a great job.
No way I could summarize the presser without at least one of the Pryor questions and the most notable was with regard to how TP is coming along as a passer:
Where is he from a passer standpoint? I think he's in the midst of growing in his understanding that you first find out where our guys are going and so you throw against air. But later you find out the passing game isn't about where the receivers are going, it's about the defenders. And that's the evolution that's so different because those defenders can break on the ball so much more quickly than the defenders he threw against a year ago, so the biggest change from high school to collegiate quarterbacking is the speed of the defense.Pretty interesting point about how it's more about knowing where the defenders are versus knowing where your receivers are.
It was also nice to hear Tress say he thinks Pryor is coming along as a passer and that he intends to use Pryor both in the pocket and on the run to keep the offense diverse. I'm not sure we've seen exactly that, but at least it appears to be the goal:
The thing you like for your offensive scheme is to never be at the same launch point. We can't say, okay, they're going to be back there at seven yards and here comes Penn State's defensive ends and defensive tackles and linebacker blitzes because they know where we're going to be standing. You have to change your launch point. Penn State does a great job of changing their launch point. Do I like them one place or the other better? No. Early on in preseason, I wasn't sure he was throwing the boot leg kind of thing as well as maybe I thought he would. Three weeks later, you could see his evolution because maybe he hadn't done as much of that. So his growth in becoming a guy that can throw it from every action, it's coming.Lastly on Pryor, Tress was asked if he'd be comfortable with TP attempting 25-30 passes in a game and he said he absolutely would. Not sure I believe that. You?
I think that covers the main points besides the injury updates. On that topic, Boom is back, and Checkwa should be but Tress was less committal on that saying the Tuesday report was that he'd be ready but they've got three days of practice to see if that's true. Nicol and Spitler are expected to be even healthier than last week.







Comments
I agree about all the color-outs these days... way overused. Don't fans wear the school colors anyway? Oh well. At least they got a little creative with the name.
It needs to be Saturday already.
Back in the day, a color-out could be decent, because it wasn't used as much. Now like you said, every team thinks they have to do it at least three games a year. Plus, I think the school always looks stupid when they call for one and it doesn't even come close in the stands.
checkwa is who im concerned with. we obviously need his services on saturday night.
and i dont really mind the color-outs. whatever. if its fun for the kids, its fun for the kids. and if it gets them out of their seats a little more and gets them to shout a little more, so be it. i dont understand why everyone is always so up in arms about the whole thing, like this mob of people all wearing scarlet shirts is going to kick your grandmother or something.
let it go.
Not to advocate the provision of alcohol to minors, but if you wanted the kids out of their seats and shouting a little bit more, then serving beer in the stadium should do the trick.
The red will look nice on TV. Otherwise it is people showing their school spirit.
GO BUCKS!!
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I don't care for the white-outs, organized crowd thing either. They did it once while I was in college still, and half the students hadn't known about it. It just so happened I had all home jersey's at the time.
I've been saying since I was a freshmen there, the best thing for the shoe would be to ring the students 10 rows deep around the entire field. I have no sympathy for the blue-hairs that go to the game as a social status symbol. These people should be tailgating in their 100,000 dollar motor homes. Let people who at least have the ability to stand and yell for 3 hours go to the game, and not have to scalp nose bleeds.
/soapbox off
Tress definitely makes a point about passing being more about where the defenders are then where the receivers are.... never quite looked at it that way. It explains why Tress has been slowly taking the handcuffs of TP--he has to learn the defensive in's and out's first. It also explains why Tress finally had enough of Boeckman--6 years in the program and he still can't quite figure out when to throw and when to get rid of it. The pick six vs USC tells the tale... a 6th year Senior should have seen that coming a mile away!!!
I don't really have a problem with the "Scarlet-out" or whatever because the shoe is pretty red as always.. its a bit different when you go to the non standard color, example "white out" at PSU.. for example imagine if we did a "grey-out"... would be strange..
anyways the worst thing about these "color outs" is when you do it then get ass stomped ... like last year at PSU when we clobbered them and there was nothing their measly white out could do to help.. or how about when Georgia thought they would do a black out this year and they got embarrassed..
anyways.. the leaves are changing.. the weather is cool.. and its time for a night game in the shoe
to make that rhyme you have to pronounce the word cool like "coo"
Amen. I am tired of all the callitwhatyouwantout. I may just wear black to the game Sat.
Hmmmm.........either I missed it, or not much was said about the defense.
"...where the defenders are versus knowing where your receivers are..." However, the really good or great quarterbacks know where the receiver will be in relation to where the defenders are currently. Allowing the quarterback to throw balls when the receiver is not completely open yet. In addition, the quarterback can use the direction of where he is looking or pump fakes to create greater separation. Finally, throwing the pass to the correct side or point in regards to coverage, route, and game situation. In regards to Pryor, one step at a time.
I realize that the "scarlet fever" will probably not be unlike anything we've already seen at Ohio Stadium, but I think it's a good idea. If anything, it lets the fans know that the coaches and team realize the magnitude of this game. Hopefully showing that will really transcend into the gameday atmosphere, and the old folk can put aside their leg pains for a few hours to bring the noise.
Personally, I think it's silly too. And as for Tressel in the red jacket, it looked as if he was "riding to hounds". It's about the game guys. Enough!
Even though I think that PSU white-outs are pretty cool looking, and Saturday night all Red (even tho it usually is anyways) will be nice to see, but OSU is supposed to have themes stolen from them not the other way around! Come on this is a innovative school, how many teams ripped off the buckeye leaves on the helmets? like 20?!
On a brighter note, nice blazer Jimmy Tress....lose the Ohio State Tie tho.....jesus Woody wouldn't even wear that and he couldn't care what you think of him.
How long until the PSU haters start firing us up again today....I'm taking the lunch hour slot
I actually like the color outs. I remember seeing the White Out for the 1st time and it was really impressive. I think it's only effective at night though. Georgia doing a black out for a noon game with the sun shining doesn't have the same impact.
The Scarlet fever idea is really stupid and makes us look really Hokey. The only "out" fans and teams should be concerned with is "winning out"
But, I am not going to lose any sleep over the Scarlet Fever theme, it means nothing as, big surprise, the shoe was going to be scarlet anyway
How about wearing both scarlet AND gray? Why do we need to stick to just one. It looks better from aerial shots anyway when you have a mix of both.
Come on, give gray some love!
Jimmy T looks really cool in that Throwback to the 70's pattern OSU tie... I think he should wear the Jacket and tie instead of the sweater vest on the sideline... they'd fly off the shelves and boost the economy!!
Has anyone actually been reprimanded for standing during a game? A couple years ago some "fans" asked us to sit down during one of the option games. "I, uh... I can't."
I know a few years back my bro and I kept getting yelled at by some blue hairs for standing on 3rd downs. The usher eventually moved us to keep anyone from getting injured.
For the record....EVERYONE should be standing on 3rd down. Shit I can't sit on third down and I'm only at the bar. LOL
Hell, watching from home I can't sit during 3rd downs.
That experience alone (back in '92) is why I've only been to two home games since. I'd rather watch at my bro's with intelligent friends/fans, especially with the advent of DVR and HD. I like to go down to campus for pre-game but gotta be in front of the big screen by kickoff.
Oh, man, I was in the worst section for the Purdue game. No one for twenty people in all directions was standing up for anything, even at the start before the game turned into a snooze fest. The only people paying attention to the game did nothing but bitch and moan and whine about our playcalling and how stupid the coaches and players were. People needed to take a long look at themselves and figure out why they showed up to the game. It make *me* feel like the weirdo every time I stood up and started cheering on third downs.
These "color" out games are retarded. I'm with Josh that if you are concerned with having a great home field atmosphere kick the richers out of A deck and put all of the students down low.
I hate the whole notion of "Scarlet Fever." I don't like joking about a disease that has killed millions of people. I especially don't like it when our own coach asks people to wear red. Our colors are scarlet and grey. We're not at Wisconsin.
I suspect we'll get stomped, anyway, no matter what color the fans wear. I hope the OSU team that played against Sparty shows up, but I have my doubts.
C'mon, Bucks. C'mon, c'mon, c'mon....
Instead of Sunday, Bloody Sunday... Will it be Saturday, Bloody Saturday... Hopefully a PSU (PUS) blood letting.
As I turn around and look at my "The Thrill of Victory: OSU 42 - Mich 39" I noticed the sea of red that flocked the field. We do not need to catch a disease to do something we already do.
People just need to show up and be "F-in" Loud!!!
Remember back when we played NCState, and it went to triple OT.
I was in section 27 or 29AA, way down in the south west corner of the endzone, like 5 feet from where Jenkins caught the ball to win that game.
My Dad and I were told to sit down by an usher because the people behind us couldn't see. I made the flippant comment "Then they should "F-in" stand up!" and my dad looks back and says "I don't think she can". Lady was hooked to an oxygen tank, and in a wheelchair. I respect dedication, and felt like an ass... but enough is enough.
That's why now I don't bother with alumni tickets and scalp student tickets. I'd rather be in C deck with the dorm kids.
I have the Same 'thrill of victory' picture chaos. love that damn thing
A couple thoughts on this - everyone supports the Bucks in different ways. I'm guessing the aforementioned blue/white/no hairs who get their tickets via contributing a relative assload of coin feel like, through their $$, they support the boys as much or more than the meager student who's yelling themselves hoarse at games.
As annoying/frustrating/borderline ridiculous as their gameday naptimes may seem to those of us intensely concerned with maintaining a home field advantage, part of the reason tOSU is such a juggernaut are those folks who pony up the $$, year in and year out. It's just a shame that the older a person gets, the less appropriate they feel it is to scream like a kid at games.
Now the beauty of a night game is it really mitigates the fat cat factor. Fighting traffic and/or loud drunks at 11:00pm+ typically isn't on the social agenda, so those tickets will usually end up in the hands of more active fans who have been partying their asses off all day.
"Scarlet Fever" is cool! I wear Scarlet every weekend and I am damn proud of it. I live in NC and have met a lot of Buckeyes that way in the sports bars. "Organization" is a good thing! Coaches organize. When Head Coaches do it, that means something that they might know that we probably don't know or forgot. When we go to war, we want to win and we want to know who is on our side. "GO SCARLET (and gray) BUCKEYES!!
I like Penn State's white-out. I think it's a good tradition for their fans. Under the lights, it can be a bit intimidating - losing to that in 2005 probably didn't help slow the trend.
Everyone else's monochrome attempt is stupid, though. None of it looks like Penn State's white-out, and Ohio State doesn't need it. Most everyone already wears a scarlet jersey on home gamedays. Needless.
No doubt in my mind that Tressel will have them ready for this big game. Stop the run and run the ball and tOSU will be fine!
Jesse W.
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what's all the fuss about tress imploring the fans to grab the replica home jerseys (and matching raingear)? correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think there has ever been a "scarlet fever" (or "red out" or whatever the hell you want to call it) that has been publicly sanctioned by the university, much less by the senator himself.
now if we turn into those bags of douche from state college and try and do it every season, i might agree with all of you.
(aside: i remember being at this game and even watching it on youtube reminds me of how LOUD it was that day. so no, we don't need to wear the same color to be passionate fans. we just need to win every game in the 4th quarter and cause massive coronaries.)
Valid points, TC.
Joe Fox is officially the most pessimistic poster that frequents this blog. How many games are we supposed to lose Joe like three or four? You should stop posting as your name and start posting as Eeyore.
"Scarlet Fever" "White Out" "Black Out".... Whatever it is, is kinda played out, but I do think that it causes a nice buzz around campus that I hope transfers into The Shoe on Saturday. As corny as "Scarlet Fever" may be, I think it will be a success on Saturday.
Also..
Did Pryors palm win the Jack Tatum hit of the week with the stiff arm it put down on Weaver? - That kid got abused!
"You should stop posting as your name and start posting as Eeyore."
Now that's funny...lol
Pryor and Wells are cementing our status as "Stiff-Arm U"
What's the over under for stiff-arms this weekend? 6?
This is the most childish commentary. The majority of the fans enjoy participating in the color scheme game plan, just because it bothers you, doesn't make it bad.
I went to an early September game several years ago when one of my co-worker OSU alumnus sold me his two tickets. It was in the upper deck, north end zone, nose bleed, "blue hair" alumni section, near the State Police(I don't know why they are up there). After letting out a yell for OSU on one particular play, a female "blue hair" in front of me whispers to her "blue hair" husband, "boy, HE'S excited."
I work my ass off all week long. And I love Buckeye football, and don't get to go to games very often, so when I do, I'm going to have some beers at the tailgate, and damn straight I'm going to do some yellin'! I wish more of the Blue Hairs would learn to yell, but their dentures might fall out, injuring those in front of them. Not good.
I like the idea of "Scarlet Fever." Let's not try to be too "cool" here and let 'em(the fans) have some fun. I agree 100% with JOSHALUM.
Runner927 - I won't dispute I'm a grumpy old man but I'm not sure I'd agree with childish. I just prefer my fans not to need motivation to wear their colors and support the team. I can't help it I find the concept cheesy but respect yours (and others) viewpoint on the subject. Thanks for stopping by and voicing your opinion. That's what we're all about.
I really sick of all these supposed 'serious' fans who don't want to have any fun at games, you sound like Michigan Fans "Oh, we're ..above.. scarlet fever..." Have you seen a Penn State home game? It's sweet. It makes the crowd feel like they're part of the event rather than just spectators and gets everyone more pumped regardless of how it effects the players.
Remember when Thad had "White Out" versus Michigan State in Basketball? Sure is wasn't original and probably made MSU feel more at home if anything, but it looked cool in the Arena, and it was certanly a fun sight seeing Tressel sporting the white Jersey and rally towel, it shows that Thad and Tress like to have some fun too, and that sorta stuff helps recruitment as well as school spirit.
Steve,
Again, to each his own though I think you're off the mark saying "serious" fans don't want to have any fun at games. I think some of us just surmise being louder is more important than being color coordinated and the two don't always go hand in hand. Sure, it looks cool on TV, but that doesn't impact the opponent like noise can.
As for the MSU whiteout - Corey and I were at that game and agree it looked cool. I'd also agree it was the one time where I felt the whole whiteout theme actually did carry over to creating a more hostile environment because the wine and cheese sections actually stood and cheered for much of the game for one of the few times I can remember. (Upset of #1 Illinois being the other)
Considering some of the comments I've seen from players or former players, I gotta say I also disagree that such events help recruiting. Winning, coaches and and an already strong fanbase help recruiting, not color coordinated crowds. Just my $.02.
You're right noise is more effective in throwing a team off, and winning is certainly more important when it comes to recruitment, but the color thing certainly doesn't hurt anything. Like you said it just makes it more exciting for the crowd outside of the Student Section which is probably all red anyway.
I like the idea, I feel like anyone who complains about it sounds like a grouch and does nothing to help or make the game better for anyone else. Like the guy who sits at the Purdue game who who huffs and puffs about the play calling next to the Dad and his kid who've never been to a game before and are simply enjoying all that is Buckeye football.