Comments on: Blogpoll: Week 8 http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2008/10/blogpoll-week-8.html You're Stepping into Manhood Right Now Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:32:10 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Wil http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2008/10/blogpoll-week-8.html#comment-28436 Wil Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:59:31 +0000 http://www.elevenwarriors.com/?p=2914#comment-28436 Maybe you are....sorry it took me so long, but I'm from the Big Ten, so I'm clearly slow. Maybe you are….sorry it took me so long, but I’m from the Big Ten, so I’m clearly slow.

]]> By: Bucksfanxc http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2008/10/blogpoll-week-8.html#comment-28407 Bucksfanxc Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:04:25 +0000 http://www.elevenwarriors.com/?p=2914#comment-28407 I did watch both games. And maybe you're right, especially considering tOSU is a completely different team now than the one that got waxed in LA. I guess I was over-compensating for my homerism. Maybe I'm just blinded by SEC speed. I did watch both games. And maybe you’re right, especially considering tOSU is a completely different team now than the one that got waxed in LA. I guess I was over-compensating for my homerism. Maybe I’m just blinded by SEC speed.

]]> By: Wil http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2008/10/blogpoll-week-8.html#comment-28338 Wil Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:34:22 +0000 http://www.elevenwarriors.com/?p=2914#comment-28338 Bucksfanxc, Did you watch both the USC/Ohio State and the Georgia/Alabama game? There is no way you can say that Georgia's home loss was better than OSU going to USC and getting beat....not to mention that OSU at least hung around until halftime. Bucksfanxc, Did you watch both the USC/Ohio State and the Georgia/Alabama game?

There is no way you can say that Georgia’s home loss was better than OSU going to USC and getting beat….not to mention that OSU at least hung around until halftime.

]]> By: Steve http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2008/10/blogpoll-week-8.html#comment-28286 Steve Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:19:37 +0000 http://www.elevenwarriors.com/?p=2914#comment-28286 Chris, thanks for the reply. USC vs. Florida on a neutral field? As much as I follow college football (which is on the level of "extensively"), I'm surprisingly bad at picking winners. But, look, we saw what Michigan did to Florida in the bowl game last year, and Michigan went out there with an offense that pretty well mimics what USC does this year. And there's no question that USC has the capacity to whitewash whoever they play off the field. But, is it fair to put them closer to a top-2 ranking after their loss in Corvalis simply because of a guess? I think people look at that as if it didn't even happen simply because USC has the best rated talent in the country. That's like basing a set of rankings off of the Rivals recruit ratings from 2004-2006. I just don't think that's not fair. So, yes, I feel that USC would annihilate Florida on a neutral field, IF USC shows up. IF Ohio State shows up, they'd beat anyone in the top-10, too, including USC. IF Florida showed up like they did against LSU, they'd beat anyone in the top-10. HOWEVER, I think Texas Tech is a pretender on par with Missouri, and people are in for a RUDE awakening when Oklahoma State gets b*thcsmacked by both Texas and Oklahoma coming up. So should I penalize them because I think they'd lose 9 out of 10 times against any of the other top-10 competition on a neutral field? No, you reward a team for doing good things, and you penalize them for doing bad things, or for not doing anything. You know, all things being equal, Florida and USC each have a bad loss. But Florida absolutely clocked LSU, and USC did the same to Ohio State. Only, in USC's case, Ohio State was playing with the best player in the nation on the sidelines. So yes, perceptions are worth their weight in gold, which comes to about $0.03. I don't care who I think would win on a neutral field. I, as a Buckeye fan, thought Miami was going to destroy us in January of 2003 - and I was wrong. Chris, thanks for the reply. USC vs. Florida on a neutral field? As much as I follow college football (which is on the level of “extensively”), I’m surprisingly bad at picking winners. But, look, we saw what Michigan did to Florida in the bowl game last year, and Michigan went out there with an offense that pretty well mimics what USC does this year. And there’s no question that USC has the capacity to whitewash whoever they play off the field. But, is it fair to put them closer to a top-2 ranking after their loss in Corvalis simply because of a guess?

I think people look at that as if it didn’t even happen simply because USC has the best rated talent in the country. That’s like basing a set of rankings off of the Rivals recruit ratings from 2004-2006. I just don’t think that’s not fair.

So, yes, I feel that USC would annihilate Florida on a neutral field, IF USC shows up. IF Ohio State shows up, they’d beat anyone in the top-10, too, including USC. IF Florida showed up like they did against LSU, they’d beat anyone in the top-10. HOWEVER, I think Texas Tech is a pretender on par with Missouri, and people are in for a RUDE awakening when Oklahoma State gets b*thcsmacked by both Texas and Oklahoma coming up. So should I penalize them because I think they’d lose 9 out of 10 times against any of the other top-10 competition on a neutral field?

No, you reward a team for doing good things, and you penalize them for doing bad things, or for not doing anything. You know, all things being equal, Florida and USC each have a bad loss. But Florida absolutely clocked LSU, and USC did the same to Ohio State. Only, in USC’s case, Ohio State was playing with the best player in the nation on the sidelines.

So yes, perceptions are worth their weight in gold, which comes to about $0.03. I don’t care who I think would win on a neutral field. I, as a Buckeye fan, thought Miami was going to destroy us in January of 2003 – and I was wrong.

]]> By: Bucksfanxc http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2008/10/blogpoll-week-8.html#comment-28278 Bucksfanxc Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:48:24 +0000 http://www.elevenwarriors.com/?p=2914#comment-28278 PS good to see Tulsa in there PS good to see Tulsa in there

]]> By: Bucksfanxc http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2008/10/blogpoll-week-8.html#comment-28276 Bucksfanxc Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:47:30 +0000 http://www.elevenwarriors.com/?p=2914#comment-28276 Because this is not supposed to be what should be the final rankings but what they are at this moment, which is my argument against the neutral field question, you just have to look at what they are doing and what they have done, not what you think that might be able to do. I rank by fewest losses, then by quality of loss. This is how I have it: 1)Texas 2)Alabama 3)Penn State 4)Oklahoma State 5)Texas Tech (this is high for them even but it will sort itself out) 6)Oklahoma 7)USC 8)Georgia 9)tOSU 10)Florida I honestly think Oklahoma (and even the rest of 7-10) could beat OK St and Texas Tech on a neutral field, but we will actually see them play later in the Big 12 schedule, so it will sort out itself and as long as 7-10 keep winning, keep moving them up, in that order. Because this is not supposed to be what should be the final rankings but what they are at this moment, which is my argument against the neutral field question, you just have to look at what they are doing and what they have done, not what you think that might be able to do. I rank by fewest losses, then by quality of loss. This is how I have it:
1)Texas
2)Alabama
3)Penn State
4)Oklahoma State
5)Texas Tech (this is high for them even but it will sort itself out)
6)Oklahoma
7)USC
8)Georgia
9)tOSU
10)Florida

I honestly think Oklahoma (and even the rest of 7-10) could beat OK St and Texas Tech on a neutral field, but we will actually see them play later in the Big 12 schedule, so it will sort out itself and as long as 7-10 keep winning, keep moving them up, in that order.

]]> By: Wil http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2008/10/blogpoll-week-8.html#comment-28274 Wil Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:23:35 +0000 http://www.elevenwarriors.com/?p=2914#comment-28274 1)Texas……If you need an explanation for this, well then you sir should no longer be allowed to watch college football. 2)Penn State….beats everyone they should beat the way they should beat them. 3)Alabama…..That Clemson win has lost its’ appeal and they are having too many close calls. 4)Oklahoma…..only loss is to the best team in the country (they were still in the game in the 4rth quarter) and they beat a solid Cincy team. 5)USC…..best win by a team not named Texas or Alabama and only 1 loss (that was on the road) 6)Florida….best win by a team not named Texas, Alabama, or USC; and only 1 loss (however it was at home so USC gets the nod) 7)Ohio State….has beat a few quality opponents and their only loss was on the road without their best player in the lineup and a different QB. 8)Georgia….their wins are turning out to be no better than OSU’s…..but their loss was at home and was over by the end of the 1st quarter…….OSU almost made it to halftime. 9)Oklahoma State…..undefeated with a quality win……but I want to see them go a couple more weeks before I buy in. 10)Texas Tech…….They get this ranking only because they are undefeated…..I think they will end up seeing a similar fate as BYU. 1)Texas……If you need an explanation for this, well then you sir should no longer be allowed to watch college football.

2)Penn State….beats everyone they should beat the way they should beat them.

3)Alabama…..That Clemson win has lost its’ appeal and they are having too many close calls.

4)Oklahoma…..only loss is to the best team in the country (they were still in the game in the 4rth quarter) and they beat a solid Cincy team.

5)USC…..best win by a team not named Texas or Alabama and only 1 loss (that was on the road)

6)Florida….best win by a team not named Texas, Alabama, or USC; and only 1 loss (however it was at home so USC gets the nod)

7)Ohio State….has beat a few quality opponents and their only loss was on the road without their best player in the lineup and a different QB.

8)Georgia….their wins are turning out to be no better than OSU’s…..but their loss was at home and was over by the end of the 1st quarter…….OSU almost made it to halftime.

9)Oklahoma State…..undefeated with a quality win……but I want to see them go a couple more weeks before I buy in.

10)Texas Tech…….They get this ranking only because they are undefeated…..I think they will end up seeing a similar fate as BYU.

]]> By: ultraBuckeyehomer http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2008/10/blogpoll-week-8.html#comment-28250 ultraBuckeyehomer Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:49:31 +0000 http://www.elevenwarriors.com/?p=2914#comment-28250 Brian I agree. USC only fails to play well one or two games a year in conference. There is always a weekend when they should roll but for some reason they never wake up. But then at the end of the year, they win a BCS game, etc When they are in a big game environment, rarely is there a better team. Must be almost as frustrating in a different way for them as it is for us. Brian I agree. USC only fails to play well one or two games a year in conference. There is always a weekend when they should roll but for some reason they never wake up. But then at the end of the year, they win a BCS game, etc

When they are in a big game environment, rarely is there a better team. Must be almost as frustrating in a different way for them as it is for us.

]]> By: Brian http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2008/10/blogpoll-week-8.html#comment-28248 Brian Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:13:44 +0000 http://www.elevenwarriors.com/?p=2914#comment-28248 Not to budge into a conversation. But, on a neutral field I believe USC would beat Florida. If USC has there D intact I believe they can stop Tebow and that offense. I would take USC, expecially when its the small games that they are supposed to win they dont show up for. This would be a huge game and USC would show up. Not to budge into a conversation. But, on a neutral field I believe USC would beat Florida. If USC has there D intact I believe they can stop Tebow and that offense. I would take USC, expecially when its the small games that they are supposed to win they dont show up for. This would be a huge game and USC would show up.

]]> By: Chris http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2008/10/blogpoll-week-8.html#comment-28246 Chris Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:01:38 +0000 http://www.elevenwarriors.com/?p=2914#comment-28246 Steve...thanks for the input...just to clarify our stance, we are not moving USC up or Florida down based on last weekend. We did so because on a neutral field we think USC is more likely to emerge the winner. That's certainly no slam dunk so let me ask who you think would win on a neutral field between those two? Steve…thanks for the input…just to clarify our stance, we are not moving USC up or Florida down based on last weekend. We did so because on a neutral field we think USC is more likely to emerge the winner. That’s certainly no slam dunk so let me ask who you think would win on a neutral field between those two?

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