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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2008/09/the-battle-for-ohio-was-closer-than-expected.html#comment-23905</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck, Chuck, Chuck. How soon we forget the past. Allow me refresh your memory:



Year     Record   (Conf)     Big 10 Finish            Bowl Game
1988 	4-6-1 	   2-5-1 	7th (tie) 		No Bowl.
1989 	8-4 	    6-2 	  3rd (tie) 	L 14-31 Hall of Fame Bowl 	
1990 	7-4-1 	   5-2-1 	5th 	       L 11-23 Liberty Bowl 	
1991 	8-4 	    5-3 	  3rd (tie) 	L 17-24 Hall of Fame Bowl 	
1992 	8-3-1 	   5-2-1 	2nd 	      L 14-21 Citrus Bowl 	
1993 	10-1-1 	  6-1-1 	1st (tie)     W 28-21 Holiday Bowl 	
1994 	9-4 	    6-2 	  2nd 	        L 24-27 Citrus Bowl 	
1995 	11-2 	   7-1 	         2nd 	       L 14-20 Citrus Bowl 	
1996 	11-1 	   7-1 	        1st (tie) 	W 20-17 Rose Bowl 	
1997 	10-3 	   6-2 	         2nd (tie) 	L 14-31 Sugar Bowl 	
1998 	11-1 	   7-1 	        1st (tie) 	W 24-14 Sugar Bowl 	
1999 	6-6 	    3-5 	  8th (tie) 		No Bowl.
2000 	8-4 	    5-3 	4th 	         L 7-24 Outback Bowl 	


All time record against Michigan: 2-10-1.


Be grateful for what we have now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck, Chuck, Chuck. How soon we forget the past. Allow me refresh your memory:</p>
<p>Year     Record   (Conf)     Big 10 Finish            Bowl Game<br />
1988 	4-6-1 	   2-5-1 	7th (tie) 		No Bowl.<br />
1989 	8-4 	    6-2 	  3rd (tie) 	L 14-31 Hall of Fame Bowl<br />
1990 	7-4-1 	   5-2-1 	5th 	       L 11-23 Liberty Bowl<br />
1991 	8-4 	    5-3 	  3rd (tie) 	L 17-24 Hall of Fame Bowl<br />
1992 	8-3-1 	   5-2-1 	2nd 	      L 14-21 Citrus Bowl<br />
1993 	10-1-1 	  6-1-1 	1st (tie)     W 28-21 Holiday Bowl<br />
1994 	9-4 	    6-2 	  2nd 	        L 24-27 Citrus Bowl<br />
1995 	11-2 	   7-1 	         2nd 	       L 14-20 Citrus Bowl<br />
1996 	11-1 	   7-1 	        1st (tie) 	W 20-17 Rose Bowl<br />
1997 	10-3 	   6-2 	         2nd (tie) 	L 14-31 Sugar Bowl<br />
1998 	11-1 	   7-1 	        1st (tie) 	W 24-14 Sugar Bowl<br />
1999 	6-6 	    3-5 	  8th (tie) 		No Bowl.<br />
2000 	8-4 	    5-3 	4th 	         L 7-24 Outback Bowl 	</p>
<p>All time record against Michigan: 2-10-1.</p>
<p>Be grateful for what we have now.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I continue to be amazed at how many people think the problems yesterday were a matter of &quot;looking ahead&quot; to SC.  That is ridiculous nonsense that I hope makes people feel better ... I, for one, am worried that we get rolled next week. 

This is the worst coached elite team in America</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I continue to be amazed at how many people think the problems yesterday were a matter of &#8220;looking ahead&#8221; to SC.  That is ridiculous nonsense that I hope makes people feel better &#8230; I, for one, am worried that we get rolled next week. </p>
<p>This is the worst coached elite team in America</p>
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		<title>By: chazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>chazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,
 
The last sentence of your post says it all!  Maybe the team need to watch the movie, &quot;Hoosiers&quot;.  To use an analogy, the field is one hundred yards for both teams and each get four downs and equal number of timeouts.  I remember &#039;02 when the Miami players were &quot;licking their chops&quot;, ready to feast on the slow farmboys from OSU.  They went on how our D would never touch their QB.  Remember the nightmare that Dorsey lived through?  We unleashed against a &quot;superior&quot; team and in the end brought home the crystal.   OSU has to take chances against SC, the injured Sanchez is simply too good to leave him untouched all night.  If you have a copy of that game watch it tonight and you will see the plan for the  SC game.  As fans we can only watch and hope that the Buckeyes will be prepared for next week.  One thing for sure, Beanie alone won&#039;t be the answer.  Everyone will have to &quot;play to the great level, if only for one game.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>The last sentence of your post says it all!  Maybe the team need to watch the movie, &#8220;Hoosiers&#8221;.  To use an analogy, the field is one hundred yards for both teams and each get four downs and equal number of timeouts.  I remember &#8216;02 when the Miami players were &#8220;licking their chops&#8221;, ready to feast on the slow farmboys from OSU.  They went on how our D would never touch their QB.  Remember the nightmare that Dorsey lived through?  We unleashed against a &#8220;superior&#8221; team and in the end brought home the crystal.   OSU has to take chances against SC, the injured Sanchez is simply too good to leave him untouched all night.  If you have a copy of that game watch it tonight and you will see the plan for the  SC game.  As fans we can only watch and hope that the Buckeyes will be prepared for next week.  One thing for sure, Beanie alone won&#8217;t be the answer.  Everyone will have to &#8220;play to the great level, if only for one game.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Glazed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glazed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bucks played listlessly, that&#039;s for sure. Of course, just because they played poorly this week doesn&#039;t mean they can&#039;t play up to their considerable potential next week. Here&#039;s hoping. Also, while Virginia might not be very good(didn&#039;t Steele pick them behind Duke?), I would be remiss if I didn&#039;t point out that Youngstown St. just lost to South Dakota State by 40-7...while getting outgained by 300 yards. Wyoming lost to Air Force by 20, as well. So...yeah. Doesn&#039;t necessarily mean much, I suppose, but neither team has exactly faced the gauntlet yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bucks played listlessly, that&#8217;s for sure. Of course, just because they played poorly this week doesn&#8217;t mean they can&#8217;t play up to their considerable potential next week. Here&#8217;s hoping. Also, while Virginia might not be very good(didn&#8217;t Steele pick them behind Duke?), I would be remiss if I didn&#8217;t point out that Youngstown St. just lost to South Dakota State by 40-7&#8230;while getting outgained by 300 yards. Wyoming lost to Air Force by 20, as well. So&#8230;yeah. Doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean much, I suppose, but neither team has exactly faced the gauntlet yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, coming into the season, I was almost certain that Beanie Wells would be named a Captain. I expected Boeckman to get the nod as well, because hey he&#039;s the 17th year senior quarterback and it&#039;d be kind of awkward to not give him the nod. And yes Robiskie is a senior and deserving of praise, and Boone would be as well if he wasn&#039;t such a loudmouth. But I&#039;ve always thought that Beanie was the real motor behind this team, and I think today bears that out. The Captain thing probably isn&#039;t a big deal, but I think its a farce to pretend that Beanie isn&#039;t the most important player on that team. The other players can say all they want to cushion their egos about how they don&#039;t think the outcome would have been different without #28 between the tackles. But on this team, there are many good players, but only a few elite, NFL knock-out type players: Beanie, Jenkins, and some days J-Lau. And probably Pryor, but that remains to be seen. If the team wants to beat USC, the good players need to step up, and play to the great level, if only for one game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, coming into the season, I was almost certain that Beanie Wells would be named a Captain. I expected Boeckman to get the nod as well, because hey he&#8217;s the 17th year senior quarterback and it&#8217;d be kind of awkward to not give him the nod. And yes Robiskie is a senior and deserving of praise, and Boone would be as well if he wasn&#8217;t such a loudmouth. But I&#8217;ve always thought that Beanie was the real motor behind this team, and I think today bears that out. The Captain thing probably isn&#8217;t a big deal, but I think its a farce to pretend that Beanie isn&#8217;t the most important player on that team. The other players can say all they want to cushion their egos about how they don&#8217;t think the outcome would have been different without #28 between the tackles. But on this team, there are many good players, but only a few elite, NFL knock-out type players: Beanie, Jenkins, and some days J-Lau. And probably Pryor, but that remains to be seen. If the team wants to beat USC, the good players need to step up, and play to the great level, if only for one game.</p>
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		<title>By: J.B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really think some of us need to calm down. I do agree that a team with this much leadership and talent shouldn&#039;t have close games like this - PERIOD.

But let&#039;s step back a bit....

1. The Bobcats came into The Shoe after a tough loss in a game they felt they should have won.

2. Teams from Ohio always step up their game when they roll into C-Bus. A lot of these kids had dreams to wear scarlet and gray and playing in that stadium every week and this ONE game is their sole shot in actually saying they played a meaningful game in The Shoe.

3. Our leader in every way was on the sideline.

4. Our play calling was vanilla at best due to the coaching staff looking ahead.

5. We played flat, again due to looking ahead.


Everything was setup perfctly for Ohio to come in and give us a good game.

Yes we made mistakes, but I&#039;ll take a game like this heading into USC week over a 41-0 route. Our senior led team just got smacked in the face and I would bet anything that this week of practice will be the best week of practice they have had in a LONG time. 

I hope to God USC watched that game and they hope thats the team that strolls into LA, because it&#039;s not going to happen. We are sitting 2-0 and have showed USC nothing.

By the way... Yes, USC looked FREAKISH in their opener, but it was against Virginia. Today, Virginia could only put up 16 against RICHMOND - only 9 more points than they put up against USC.

Their QB almost had a better day against USC than he did against Richmond going 21/29 for 204 yards - No TD&#039;s and 2 picks against Richmond vs. 18/35 for 155 yards - No TD&#039;s and only 1 pick.

They rushed for 91 yards against Richmond vs. 32 against USC.

I&#039;m not saying that USC isn&#039;t good, but let&#039;s not claim defeat just yet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really think some of us need to calm down. I do agree that a team with this much leadership and talent shouldn&#8217;t have close games like this &#8211; PERIOD.</p>
<p>But let&#8217;s step back a bit&#8230;.</p>
<p>1. The Bobcats came into The Shoe after a tough loss in a game they felt they should have won.</p>
<p>2. Teams from Ohio always step up their game when they roll into C-Bus. A lot of these kids had dreams to wear scarlet and gray and playing in that stadium every week and this ONE game is their sole shot in actually saying they played a meaningful game in The Shoe.</p>
<p>3. Our leader in every way was on the sideline.</p>
<p>4. Our play calling was vanilla at best due to the coaching staff looking ahead.</p>
<p>5. We played flat, again due to looking ahead.</p>
<p>Everything was setup perfctly for Ohio to come in and give us a good game.</p>
<p>Yes we made mistakes, but I&#8217;ll take a game like this heading into USC week over a 41-0 route. Our senior led team just got smacked in the face and I would bet anything that this week of practice will be the best week of practice they have had in a LONG time. </p>
<p>I hope to God USC watched that game and they hope thats the team that strolls into LA, because it&#8217;s not going to happen. We are sitting 2-0 and have showed USC nothing.</p>
<p>By the way&#8230; Yes, USC looked FREAKISH in their opener, but it was against Virginia. Today, Virginia could only put up 16 against RICHMOND &#8211; only 9 more points than they put up against USC.</p>
<p>Their QB almost had a better day against USC than he did against Richmond going 21/29 for 204 yards &#8211; No TD&#8217;s and 2 picks against Richmond vs. 18/35 for 155 yards &#8211; No TD&#8217;s and only 1 pick.</p>
<p>They rushed for 91 yards against Richmond vs. 32 against USC.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that USC isn&#8217;t good, but let&#8217;s not claim defeat just yet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 04:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this story is missing mention of the lost ND banner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this story is missing mention of the lost ND banner.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, thanks for the correction -- should be fixed now.

Sean, the playcalling frustrates me just as much as the next guy, but you know they weren&#039;t busting anything fancy out against the Bobcats, despite how dire the circumstances got.  &quot;Exotic&quot; is a relative term when applied to the Buckeye offense, but we&#039;ll see some stuff next week that we haven&#039;t seen before.  

Also, Beanie caught two balls out of the backfield last weekend after catching only four all of last season, so they appear to be trying to work that in.  Perhaps they don&#039;t have the same faith with Herron catching balls out of the backfield?

There is plenty to be concerned about -- and maybe Tressel deep down likes that.  The coaches have stuff they can ride the guys on all week.  I wouldn&#039;t put it past him at all to take the hand off the throttle in games like these for just that purpose.

As FB said, it was truly 60 minutes of suck, but it&#039;s a &quot;W&quot; and I&#039;ll withhold judgment until next Saturday night.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, thanks for the correction &#8212; should be fixed now.</p>
<p>Sean, the playcalling frustrates me just as much as the next guy, but you know they weren&#8217;t busting anything fancy out against the Bobcats, despite how dire the circumstances got.  &#8220;Exotic&#8221; is a relative term when applied to the Buckeye offense, but we&#8217;ll see some stuff next week that we haven&#8217;t seen before.  </p>
<p>Also, Beanie caught two balls out of the backfield last weekend after catching only four all of last season, so they appear to be trying to work that in.  Perhaps they don&#8217;t have the same faith with Herron catching balls out of the backfield?</p>
<p>There is plenty to be concerned about &#8212; and maybe Tressel deep down likes that.  The coaches have stuff they can ride the guys on all week.  I wouldn&#8217;t put it past him at all to take the hand off the throttle in games like these for just that purpose.</p>
<p>As FB said, it was truly 60 minutes of suck, but it&#8217;s a &#8220;W&#8221; and I&#8217;ll withhold judgment until next Saturday night.</p>
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		<title>By: Findlay Buckeye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Findlay Buckeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The missed PAT was, I think, the result of a bad snap and/or hold.  It didn&#039;t look to me like the ball was lined up as it should have been when Pretorius kicked it, hence the shank.

Lots of little annoying things today.  A whiffed block on the ONLY OU player in position to tackle Ray Small on a screen pass that was set up to go for big yards.  Multiple drops from the normally very reliable Robiskie and Hartline, including three on a single drive.  Snatches of Bad Boeckman, although as Jason points out, a lot of the sloppiness today wasn&#039;t his fault.  Sanzenbacher might have been our best receiver today, and even he drove me nuts cutting back behind the first-down yardage on at least two occasions while trying to get more yards--though thankfully he got the yardage back both times.  Dane, we love the effort, but on a day like today, just get the damn first down.  And I don&#039;t think today was the coaching staff&#039;s finest, either.  I have tons of respect for Jim Tressel, but sending Mo Wells into the line on a dive play on fourth-and-one was a disaster that I could see coming from Findlay.  

Lots of props to OU.  Solich and Bobcat fans should be extremely proud of the effort.

It was sixty minutes of suck, but the win still counts.  Maybe it shouldn&#039;t, but it counts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The missed PAT was, I think, the result of a bad snap and/or hold.  It didn&#8217;t look to me like the ball was lined up as it should have been when Pretorius kicked it, hence the shank.</p>
<p>Lots of little annoying things today.  A whiffed block on the ONLY OU player in position to tackle Ray Small on a screen pass that was set up to go for big yards.  Multiple drops from the normally very reliable Robiskie and Hartline, including three on a single drive.  Snatches of Bad Boeckman, although as Jason points out, a lot of the sloppiness today wasn&#8217;t his fault.  Sanzenbacher might have been our best receiver today, and even he drove me nuts cutting back behind the first-down yardage on at least two occasions while trying to get more yards&#8211;though thankfully he got the yardage back both times.  Dane, we love the effort, but on a day like today, just get the damn first down.  And I don&#8217;t think today was the coaching staff&#8217;s finest, either.  I have tons of respect for Jim Tressel, but sending Mo Wells into the line on a dive play on fourth-and-one was a disaster that I could see coming from Findlay.  </p>
<p>Lots of props to OU.  Solich and Bobcat fans should be extremely proud of the effort.</p>
<p>It was sixty minutes of suck, but the win still counts.  Maybe it shouldn&#8217;t, but it counts.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was there today, and it was far worse in person than it looked on the tape of the game I set on my way out the door - if that&#039;s imaginable.  The last time I saw an OSU team come out that slow, flat and uninspired was the Florida game.  I heard a similar take to Sean&#039;s about the OSU offensive staff on 1460 when I was driving home.  I saw a couple of interesting wrinkles, but OU saw them coming (Pryor&#039;s back pass comes to mind).  Horrible.

Anyone who thinks this Ohio State team is going out to California and dropping 35 on USC is on crack.  Absolutely on crack.

Ohio State will have to win a close, competitive, low-scoring game to win in LA, and I just don&#039;t see that happening.  That game today was absolutely embarrassing.  

And I&#039;m sunburnt.  (Those OU fans were obnoxious as all get-out.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was there today, and it was far worse in person than it looked on the tape of the game I set on my way out the door &#8211; if that&#8217;s imaginable.  The last time I saw an OSU team come out that slow, flat and uninspired was the Florida game.  I heard a similar take to Sean&#8217;s about the OSU offensive staff on 1460 when I was driving home.  I saw a couple of interesting wrinkles, but OU saw them coming (Pryor&#8217;s back pass comes to mind).  Horrible.</p>
<p>Anyone who thinks this Ohio State team is going out to California and dropping 35 on USC is on crack.  Absolutely on crack.</p>
<p>Ohio State will have to win a close, competitive, low-scoring game to win in LA, and I just don&#8217;t see that happening.  That game today was absolutely embarrassing.  </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m sunburnt.  (Those OU fans were obnoxious as all get-out.)</p>
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