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	<title>Comments on: O&#8217;Brien Awarded 2.4 Million For Cheating</title>
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		<title>By: Eleven Warriors &#187; Hoops Nugs</title>
		<link>http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2007/09/obrien-awarded-24-million-for-cheating.html#comment-16149</link>
		<dc:creator>Eleven Warriors &#187; Hoops Nugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] show the Ohio Supreme Court voted 5-2 against the university&#8217;s appeal of an earlier ruling awarding O&#8217;Brien 2.46 million for wrongful [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Eleven Warriors &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Milestone Brew: A Golden (Era) Lager</title>
		<link>http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2007/09/obrien-awarded-24-million-for-cheating.html#comment-5031</link>
		<dc:creator>Eleven Warriors &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Milestone Brew: A Golden (Era) Lager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] be considered a historical national powerhouse. That perception could soon be changing. Thanks to Jim O&#8217;Brien&#8217;s vision for the youth of Eastern Europe, Thad Matta has quickly thrust Ohio State into the national [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] be considered a historical national powerhouse. That perception could soon be changing. Thanks to Jim O&#8217;Brien&#8217;s vision for the youth of Eastern Europe, Thad Matta has quickly thrust Ohio State into the national [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2007/09/obrien-awarded-24-million-for-cheating.html#comment-3725</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've got love for Geiger. He focused on facility upgrades and coaching hires for the future. Markell, Matta, Tressel, Schott, Stadium refurbishing....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got love for Geiger. He focused on facility upgrades and coaching hires for the future. Markell, Matta, Tressel, Schott, Stadium refurbishing&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: HAL3</title>
		<link>http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2007/09/obrien-awarded-24-million-for-cheating.html#comment-3720</link>
		<dc:creator>HAL3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Easy on Geiger - he was the mastermind of one of, if not THE most powerful sports machine on earth.  Coaches, Facilities, and Athletes.  He is a great Buckeye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easy on Geiger - he was the mastermind of one of, if not THE most powerful sports machine on earth.  Coaches, Facilities, and Athletes.  He is a great Buckeye.</p>
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		<title>By: TLB</title>
		<link>http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2007/09/obrien-awarded-24-million-for-cheating.html#comment-3712</link>
		<dc:creator>TLB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He can't coach in the NCAA until 2009.  Why?  Because he cheated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He can&#8217;t coach in the NCAA until 2009.  Why?  Because he cheated.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2007/09/obrien-awarded-24-million-for-cheating.html#comment-3703</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OB did "cheat" in regards to the $6000. The kid was still being actively recruited by OSU at the time and did commit to the Bucks soon afterwards. It didn't become known that he would be ineligible until later. So at the time, OB knew it was against the rules, he may have done it for humanitarian reasons or maybe to curry favor with a 7ft pus stud. who knows,,,but in the end the reason OSU has to pay is due to Geiger. 

He extended OB's contract with the ridiculous stipulation that OB had to have been found guilty of violating a "major ncaa infraction" before they could fire him,,,how ridiculous is that. At the time Geiger let him go, this wasn't true, hence OB's angle for the suit.

To sign that deal, and then to fire the guy in violation of that deal is doubly ignorant. I for one am glad Geiger is gone, his last few years representing OSU were an embarrassment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OB did &#8220;cheat&#8221; in regards to the $6000. The kid was still being actively recruited by OSU at the time and did commit to the Bucks soon afterwards. It didn&#8217;t become known that he would be ineligible until later. So at the time, OB knew it was against the rules, he may have done it for humanitarian reasons or maybe to curry favor with a 7ft pus stud. who knows,,,but in the end the reason OSU has to pay is due to Geiger. </p>
<p>He extended OB&#8217;s contract with the ridiculous stipulation that OB had to have been found guilty of violating a &#8220;major ncaa infraction&#8221; before they could fire him,,,how ridiculous is that. At the time Geiger let him go, this wasn&#8217;t true, hence OB&#8217;s angle for the suit.</p>
<p>To sign that deal, and then to fire the guy in violation of that deal is doubly ignorant. I for one am glad Geiger is gone, his last few years representing OSU were an embarrassment.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were 13-15 in OB's last year, we just needed an excuse to get rid of him.  I agree with Chris, the Boban incident was the back breaker for Jimmy Boy.  Thad is Rad and there is no reason to look back any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were 13-15 in OB&#8217;s last year, we just needed an excuse to get rid of him.  I agree with Chris, the Boban incident was the back breaker for Jimmy Boy.  Thad is Rad and there is no reason to look back any more.</p>
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		<title>By: CHRIS</title>
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		<dc:creator>CHRIS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monkey -- Fair point. I dont disagree that OSU made their own bed with how they went about it, giving OB a legal crack to exploit, but I'll always believe he cheated unless somebody can show me other examples of him graciously giving non-7ft Centers with NBA potential  $6k out the goodness of his heart. 

And beyond this instance, the real reason he's dirty is the Boban stuff. Do you think he had no knowledge of Boban's set up? If so, didn't he fail to monitor his own renegade assistant coach?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monkey &#8212; Fair point. I dont disagree that OSU made their own bed with how they went about it, giving OB a legal crack to exploit, but I&#8217;ll always believe he cheated unless somebody can show me other examples of him graciously giving non-7ft Centers with NBA potential  $6k out the goodness of his heart. </p>
<p>And beyond this instance, the real reason he&#8217;s dirty is the Boban stuff. Do you think he had no knowledge of Boban&#8217;s set up? If so, didn&#8217;t he fail to monitor his own renegade assistant coach?</p>
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		<title>By: sportsMonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>sportsMonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 05:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I totally agree that OSU is better off with Matta, and glad that OB isn't part of the program anymore.

However, IMHO, "cheater" is a bit of a strong word for OB's violations. Not to re-hash the entire incident, but remember that Radojevic was not a "recruit," per se, at the time of the infamous loan. "Cheater" implies an attempt to win unfairly, and there was absolutely zero benefit given to OSU by OB's action.

At any rate, there were two issues there... an NCAA one and a Geiger one. There's no question that OB violated his contract with OSU. But there's also no question that OSU violated their own terms of the contract, by the way they went about firing him. Had Geiger and the AD's lawyers done handled the OB situation competently, OB would have faded away into nothingness, rather than continue to draw headlines for himself several years later.

Just my two cents. Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I totally agree that OSU is better off with Matta, and glad that OB isn&#8217;t part of the program anymore.</p>
<p>However, IMHO, &#8220;cheater&#8221; is a bit of a strong word for OB&#8217;s violations. Not to re-hash the entire incident, but remember that Radojevic was not a &#8220;recruit,&#8221; per se, at the time of the infamous loan. &#8220;Cheater&#8221; implies an attempt to win unfairly, and there was absolutely zero benefit given to OSU by OB&#8217;s action.</p>
<p>At any rate, there were two issues there&#8230; an NCAA one and a Geiger one. There&#8217;s no question that OB violated his contract with OSU. But there&#8217;s also no question that OSU violated their own terms of the contract, by the way they went about firing him. Had Geiger and the AD&#8217;s lawyers done handled the OB situation competently, OB would have faded away into nothingness, rather than continue to draw headlines for himself several years later.</p>
<p>Just my two cents. Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Travis:  It's a different Jim O'Brien that coaches the Pacers.</description>
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